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The future of Linux (lemmy.sdf.org)
submitted 1 year ago by pmk@lemmy.sdf.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I'm not proposing anything here, I'm curious what you all think of the future.

What is your vision for what you want Linux to be?

I often read about wanting a smooth desktop experience like on MacOS, or having all the hardware and applications supported like Windows, or the convenience of Google products (mail, cloud storage, docs), etc.

A few years ago people were talking about convergence of phone/desktop, i.e. you plug your phone into a big screen and keyboard and it's now your desktop computer. That's one vision. ChromeOS has its "everything is in the cloud" vision. Stallman has his vision where no matter what it is, the most important part is that it's free software.

If you could decide the future of personal computing, what would it be?

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[-] mtchristo@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

For Linux desktop to grow past the single digit market share it is at today. It needs to be led by tech visionaries not by code evangelists . The average user doesn't care about if it's running Wayland or x11 or whatever shit you name it they only care about their OS having all the features they need and support all the latest hardware they buy.

Add to that any average Joe would freeze at the prospect of having to enter a command line to maintain their computer or use their firewall. In short for Linux to grow it needs to copy windows or macOS otherwise it will keep being used by nerds and sys admins

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In a very real sense I do think that the command line is ever so slightly too maligned as a beginner friendly tool. I definitely agree that it’s intimidating for people and that it’s easy to mistype a command or whatever… but good god is it ever nice to be able to tell somebody to “just copy and run this command” instead of guiding them through a GUI. Of course that has its own problems (ideally you don’t run commands you don’t understand), but it can be a really nice way to quickly help somebody. Macs strike a good balance with this in my opinion. There are GUI options for more or less everything (that seem to be front ends for command line tools), but also command line versions available, giving you the best of both worlds.

[-] mtchristo@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

The problem with the command line line. Is that people don't understand what they are typing . what command means what. And don't really care to memorize them. I've seen tech illiterate people navigate their way through leading how a mobile OS works because of how user centric they are designed. If you give them a Linux distro with a bunch of command lines to type. They would rather call someone more knowledgeable to do it or give up on it entirely. Unfortunately this is something Linux Devs don't understand

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

Clicking buttons doesn't mean you understand what they do. And often time they don't do what you would think they do. CLI on the other hand is actually much more direct, because the entered command does the same thing on almost any machine and you can read about what it does with "man command".

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

GUI have context and user feedback

Command line has :0: error: Undefined temporary symbol :0: error: Undefined temporary symbol

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago

What? Is this sarcasm? CLI offers much more debug potential than GUIs.

[-] ultrasquid@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

For someone who knows what they're doing maybe, but this is about those who don't, which is 99% of people.

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

So what are you doing when a GUI tells you "error"? You give up and do something else?

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

A GUI tells you a lot more about the current status and what you can do, in an intuitive way, than the cli ever can

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

This is no argument, this is simple opinion without any base. How does a "next/proceed/ok" button tell you anything? Also windows is hilariously known for its horrendous error messages. Stop trolling please.

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