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A series of polls asking for feedback about what improvements people want to see in the Fediverse.
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this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2023
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I really don't mind disagreement. What bothered me:
When you write like that, it gives no chance to have a productive conversation.
You do understand that it's an expression, don't you?
It's a fact. Monetisation of any kind is against the mere idea of federated social media. People com here to be away from corporations, advertising and the like. The model of social media that seeks to make social networking into a business model is in crisis, why would anyone want to made the fediverse into that?
Again, opinion-as-fact.
Okay, let's see where you are going with that...
That does not follow from your the first sentence.
Not every business is a "corporation". Not every professional that provides a service for money is a rent-seeker.
The fact that there are "business coming to the fediverse" does not mean that they can only operate on the same (failed) business models from Big Tech.
If you bothered to look into the polls I did in the original submission you'd see that I do not want to apply the Silicon Valley playbook here. If you go take a look at my first blog post about communick, you would see that the last thing I want to have is a "Corporation" in the Fediverse, but instead I want to have it strong and attractive enough for small, independent service providers, so that it can become a mainstream alternative and not just a niche for outsiders.
No. What you want is to make money out of decentralised social media.
People offering their services and talent for money already exist on the fediverse.
Funny. Because in the polls you asked a question about features someone would be interested in pay for. Some of which are characteristical of corporate social media...
By providing a service and building things that can improve the ecosystem, not by rent-seeking.
None of what I am doing or thinking about doing is exclusive. Managed Hosting? Subscriber-only accounts? Add-on features? What is so evil about these business models?
So what is your problem with my polls?
What is "corporate" about that?
You do know you can't make money out of any fediverse software, don't you? You can make money on the fediverse, like artists and professionals do, but you can't make money out of it.
From mastodon main page:
This goes in contradiction with an option on one of your polls:
Other than accounts that suggest you people to follow on the fediverse, there's no algorithm that recommends you accounts to follow or content to see. In fact, this very thing would go against the TOS of Mastodon, Peertube, and other fediverse software
You could make your own software that offers those things and give users the posibility/ability to federate, but you cannot legally add premium features or recommendation algorithms to already existing fediverse software or any fork of it.
You are making things up or you don't understand how the AGPL works. There is no "TOS" for the fediverse software.
Don't believe me? Go ask the Mastodon devs themselves if there is anything irregular/illegal about any of the things I am working on or proposing.
Recommending profiles to follow is already part of the onboarding process, and is not in any way equivalent to "pushing profiles for you to see".
Look, I really tried to keep an open mind about this conversation, but now you are distorting the truth and I can't tell if it's for ignorance or dishonesty. I think it's time to end it. Have a nice one.
So, if its already possible. What would your freemium features add?
Each software has, in fact, its rules/terms. Peertube, for example, is explicitly non-profit.
To me what you are doing trying to monetise something that is completely free of charge, while pretending you are doing it to promote the fediverse, "making it mainstream" (the last thing the hardcore fedizens want), IS dishonest. So I guess we are even.