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[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 67 points 10 months ago

As a non-Jewish person who HAS studied, fairly in depth, definitely way more than most Americans (and apparently Israelis too based on comments in last weeks/years), I find this cynical usage of the utter destruction of a people and political opponents (because it's important to remember Nazis hated Jews for racial reasons but hated socialists and communists for their ideology and they came for the leftists first) to be just, truly, beyond words and expression horrific.

This display trivializes, downplays, and makes a joke of something that, again, a lot of people do not understand the depths of. When I sit here typing this and I remember the quotes from German Nazis and collaborators post-war speaking frankly of the atrocities they participated in, and I mean the stuff they talk about... I don't even like re-typing it. I spend a lot of time thinking of the images formed in my head when I first read those accounts and that was years ago! Most of the images are of the eastern front, in the Baltic countries, where the villagers would happily provide names and locations of the local Jewish families and sometimes even did the genocide before the "special" SS commandos dispatched to murder Jews en masse even showed up. I mean, this is peering into one of the most bleak darknesses humanity has ever allowed.

And this man and his associates, supported, one has to assume, by his government, is using the persecution and the destruction of these people, his relatives, to perpetuate a modern duplication of the atrocities which give readers some level of PTSD to even read, much less experience or hear from family members.

Israel and its supporters are a disgrace to humanity and they actively damage the memories of all the lives lost because of the evils of fascism and specifically Naziism for this discussion. Unfortunately, I know that this is actually much of the underlying point for these right wing types. They don't want people to remember that socialists were despised and murdered by Nazis as well because that might make people realize which side was fighting the Nazis from the start and that it might be ridiculous to paint that side as anti-Semitic ie the same as the Nazis.

Zionism is anti-Semitism Zionists and Israel do not and will not ever represent all Jews The crimes of Israel are not the crimes of Jews. They are the crimes of men like Bibi and this asshole and all who support him, all who contribute to the ongoing genocide of Palestinians, and those who support it from afar like nearly the entire US government. Every Israeli citizen, American, Canadian, British, French, German, etc. should all be ashamed it's been allowed to continue and get to this point. It's our moral duty to do everything we can to end this insanity. I have no faith in people like this man or Biden, but I have some faith left that average people who see crushed children will join in demanding an end to this shit if they know others will stand beside them. If this isn't something that motivates people to actually do something about our government(s) in the western world then we truly are lost to the darkness and deserve to be destroyed.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago

This is kind of on point for Zionism. Blaming the Jewish people murdered in the holocaust for their own murder and vowing to be tough musclar fascists who won't just "lay down and die like they did" has been part of zionist rhetoric on and off over the decades. A core part of Zionist anti-Semitism is contempt for what Zionists viewed as weak and passive Jewish culture. If Fascist then RevitalizeTheNation.exe

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

Thank you for saying this.

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