334
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Nixon did it below board, Carter started to legalise it.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Carter isn't a Republican though.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair point, but then it was Reagan who got rid of the 92% tax rate.

"If I get taxed 92% on making my next movie, then I'm not going to make that movie, and all the rest of the movie workforce will be out of work."

No, you fucking dingbat, they'll hire someone else instead and pay everyone else better, as they'll save on your ridiculous pay packet.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Close... The 92% rate was under Eisenhower. By the time it reached Reagan, the top tax rate was 70%. He cut it to 50% initially, then cut it AGAIN slightly in his 2nd term to 38.5%.

Source: Am old. Was there.

Also:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_tax_cuts

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Oh jeez 50 is too low, 38.5 is insane.

If I have a 92% tax rate I only keep working because I want to, and that’s a good thing. It discourages me from trying to have all the money

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you think 38.5 is insane, have I got news for you!

The current top US tax rate is 37%. ;)

But the rates are also graduated... which is something most people do not understand.

I'm going to use the "Married, Filing Jointly" numbers since that applies to my example:

10% - $0 to $22,000
12% - $22,001 to $89,450
22% - $89,451 to $190,750
24% - $190,751 to $364,200
32% - $364,201 to $462,500
35% - $462,501 to $693,750
37% - $693,751 or more

So you only get taxed at 37% if you make $693,751 or more. But that does NOT mean your tax liability is $256,687.87.

You would pay 10% on the first $22K, 12% up to $89,450, 22% up to $190,750... and so on.

If you make exactly $693,751 you are paying 37% on exactly 1 dollar of income, because the other $693,750 has already been taxed at lower rates.

So for my wife and myself, we combined for $169,000 last year.

10% - $0 to $22,000 - $2,200
12% - $22,001 to $89,450 - $8,094
22% - $89,451 to $190,750 - $17,501

Our total tax liability was $27,795 out of $169,000 or 16.45%. Even though we're in the 22% bracket, we only paid 22% on the income from $89,451 to $169,000.

By the time you count in how much was with-held and how much our deductions were, we actually got a pretty nice refund last year.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well yeah I’m a taxpayer. Someone wouldn’t criticize tax policy without understanding how their taxes work right?

And yeah I’m thinking in terms of the top bracket which should be set above comfortable upper middle class. At a certain point you have a ton of money, and if you’re trying to retire early using a huge income you can use a Roth IRA and have it taxed as you pull from it slower than you put in to it. These people aren’t paying their fair share and instead we borrow the money to make up for their failure to contribute

[-] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I've heard that if you're upset about something, then you should blame Reagan, because it was probably his fault.

Really though, I just wanted to reply to say that I love your source 🤙

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

For those od us old enough to have lived through his terms (or even remember when he was Governor of California) there's an awful lot to blame him for.

But the other half of the coin is "Why didn't Clinton, Obama, or Biden do anything about it?"

Reagan was in for 8 years. Obviously Bush (4), Bush (8) and Trump (4) weren't going to do anything. Where were Clinton (8), Obama (8)? Where is Biden (3 and counting)?

Notably:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/commentary/story/2023-04-24/opinion-impact-of-deinstitutionalization-on-homelessness-reagan-mental-health-hospitals-san-diego

https://www.salon.com/2013/09/29/ronald_reagans_shameful_legacy_violence_the_homeless_mental_illness/

this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2023
334 points (98.3% liked)

News

23305 readers
3723 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS