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It's a little sad because decades of right-wing anti-Hillary propaganda not only proved effective, but it noticeably altered Hillary into this jaded cynic completely lacking in vision or idealism. I'm not a huge Hillary fan, but the vast majority of the hate is completely manufactured outrage. That being said it doesn't change what you said being valid.
You can see them trying with AOC, but I suspect it won't yield the same results.
Dude she was a McGovern girl. She has always been an empty husk seeking power and validation
She was a Goldwater Girl, which is orders of magnitude worse. McGovern would have been a massive improvement from Nixon.
There's always been this weird push from her supporters that's anyone who doesn't like her is either a misogynist or fell for propaganda.
They just refuse to admit she has any faults.
Supporters get awful quiet when you ask about her continued defense of her husband's misconduct and alleged sexual assaults. They get down right silent when you ask about her attacking his accusers.
I still believe she was offered the Democratic nomination (in the future) in exchange for not pulling the rug out from under Bill.
Those same people are beginning to do that with Kamala too. Thankfully it's not as widespread yet.
She did a good enough job maligning herself, she didn't need the Republicans to do it for her. The entire DNC primary was a shitshow of Clinton debasing the primaries and showing what she would do for power.
it noticeably altered hillary clinton into hillary clinton
There's a bunch of stances she's taken I view negatively but admit there's nuance.
Then there's DOMA. Anyone on that let it be known their principles for marginalized groups is only "as convenient", which means support of them should also only be as is convenient or useful. She is no longer convenient or useful.
It's weird because I can distinctly remember after 2008 that she was looked on favorably, as secretary of state. People made fun memes about her and found her likeable. Fox News really did a number on her.
She was always the slimiest neoliberal around, and she walked up on stage and said shit like "women supporting women means you have to vote for me"
Hilary was respected because she got stuff done and mostly only spoke to the ownership class. She was never liked, and the more people saw her speak the less people liked her
Let's not forget, she made deals to get the presidency. She burned the trust and local campaign funds of the Democratic party just to lose.
Fox wasn't charitable to her, but chanting "lock her up" didn't ruin her image, she did a great job of that herself who looked deeper than sound bites
Clinton is infinitely more intelligent and effective than aoc has proven to be though. Clinton gets hated on because she was good at her job, aoc gets hated on for being a brown chick.
Good at her job as long as her job was to be a centrist hack that allowed the political spectrum to shift farther to the right. What a joke.