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[-] bastion@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Communism isn't a problem, just like actual christlike Christians aren't a problem.

The problem is the susceptibility to abusive power. Capitalism is bad at that, but communism is terrible at it.

[-] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 11 months ago

communism isnt susceptibil to abusive power. the marxist leninist transition state is.

guess what, when a small group of ppl has full power over a state, ppl and economy "to transform it into a monyeless, stateless and classless society", they will make sure to create a system that favours themsleves instead and that their state never withers away.

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

By your own assertion, people can create groups that are self-serving.

Go ahead and tell me your communistic ideal, and I can tell you how someone could hack it.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Stop using capitalism to mean liberalism

Just say liberalism

You're comparing a vague economic description to a whole ass ideology

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm comparing capitalism to communism. If your issue is with that, I can't help you.

If your issue is with me using Christianity as an example of a system that is broken in a similar way to communism, perhaps I can elaborate if you're interested.

By 'capitalism,' though, I simply mean 'capitalism.' Sorry to disappoint you, bud, but the liberals aren't the problem.

Now, I don't have a fundamental problem with capitalism, it's just weak in that it trends towards inducing and rewarding short-term thought, but it fundamentally depends on long-term thought.

Like anything, it can be a useful tool, but it's definitely the principle of a "whole-ass ideology".

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 11 months ago

That's a lot of words for "I don't actually know what I'm talking about"

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Your judgment stings, really.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 11 months ago

The ignorant are often proud of their attitudes, yes.

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Are insults and derision seriously all you've got to offer?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 11 months ago

You could try asking questions instead of saying nonsense in the future, valuable contributer.

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Asking questions of you? No need.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 11 months ago

Not of me, specifically, you great mind.

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Although I'm fine with witty banter, when I ask questions I look for people who can combine their genuity with intelligence.

So indeed. Not of you. And not of anyone you imagine I should.

Your dangling reply is most welcome, should you make one.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 11 months ago

Oh god, you think you're intelligent. That's... Well, we've been over this, but I assume you've forgotten.

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