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[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah Fuck the Warsaw uprising. There’s no Reason to ever rise up against your oppressors. They should be content to go through the legal process to change things. Israel has never committed actions that make peaceful protest impossible, like shooting over 3000 Palestinians who were in a peaceful dance off at the edge of their concentration camp. I mean, Israel is only going after Hamas, it’s not like they’ve been systematically bombing the West Bank, where there is no Hamas presence. They’re only going after the leadership, which is why they’re bombing Lebanon, not Gaza, because as we all know, none of Hamas leadership resides in Gaza.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You just set up a pretty Strawmen here. I've said nothing about any of this. You just sling this at me with no real connection, so it's basically angry rambling with nothing inside.

I am concerned about any civilians getting killed or harmed in any way. But you seem to be angry that I say it's not okay to kill civilians for anyone. Why is that?

Why can't you just acknowledge that it's not okay to kill civilians of any kind? Or is it that you just want a special group of civilians killed? Please tell me because now you just seem to support the killing of a group of civilians you don't like for what reason whatsoever.

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 11 points 1 year ago

Settlers aren’t civilians, they are agents of the state whose express purpose is to colonize and settle lands the settler colonial nation state they represent have claimed. It’s the same reason that the US sent settlers ahead of where they intended to dispossess indigenous groups. It gives a cover for their inevitable escalatory retaliation when the indigenous are forced to turn to violence to protect themselves. These tactics have been analyzed for hundreds of years, and they don’t work on people who actually read history. If you want to be an Israeli civilian, live in Israel’s territory, not the illegally occupied settlements.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But Hamas is not only targeting settlers. Even IF they were agents, which is just a complete exaggeration. So again, why don't you say killing civilians is wrong? Why do you want to defend people who willingly target them?

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 3 points 1 year ago

It’s not only not an exaggeration, it’s a clearly stated intention of settler colonist societies. Maybe read some history books, I can recommend a few.

Do you condemn the Warsaw Uprising? They didn’t target only Nazis, so they must have been unjustified, right?

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You know what? I don't feel like dealing with you. You will not change your mind and neither do I. And both of us can't change a thing about this war. So I'm done with you.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do you always distract? Please answer.

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 2 points 1 year ago

I don’t respond to bad faith questions. It’s a debate bro tactic, and I’m not here to debate you.

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