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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's long been a known problem that the USAF has never seriously adapted to the idea that airfields can simply be contested by enemy stand-off weaponry from afar.

Fucking how is the pentagon this inept? I know they're incompetent morons but how did they never study a way to deal with the idea that a stationary target is vulnerable?

Though honestly that thread gives me some hope. The Great Satan may be more brittle than we expected. It's crumbling from within and is rapidly losing its ability to project its power. It's still massively dangerous but maybe its demise will come sooner than later. Internal contradictions and collapse in the face of widespread Arab rebellion and Chinese ascendancy may be its death knell. God help all of us who are trapped in the belly of this brazen bull; the fires are lit.

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

how did they never study a way to deal with the idea that a stationary target is vulnerable

I guess they still haven't realized the danger of ballistic missiles, or at least the fact that cheap, mass-produced missiles can still be very effective - American missile designs are, in typical MIC fashion, way too expensive, and thus the kind of thing that's going to be way out of the reach of poorer countries.

Because of this, they probably assume that airfields are only going to be targeted by planes, which combines with another faulty assumption, one that undergirds a lot of NATO doctrine - unchallenged air superiority. If the only thing that can hit your bases is planes, and you're going to completely destroy your opponent's air power (because... you just will, obviously, no point in asking what happens if you don't), then everything's fine. Plus, poorer countries are going to struggle with maintaining a large airforce too, so when fighting in the Middle East there probably won't be all that many enemy planes to deal with.

That's the key thing about missiles and drones, and why they're such an important factor here - they give smaller military forces the capability to strike distant targets. You don't need an expensive-to-maintain air fleet and network of bases, just a few of your guys and a truck to carry the munitions to a good spot for launching them, and you can deal a decent bit of damage. But the Americans are so complacent that they haven't really caught up with this reality yet.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

It really feels like missiles and drones are to the early 21st century as trenches and machine guns were to the early 20th.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

And as we can see in Ukraine, trenches are useful again. Hell, Hamas' tunnels are just roofed trenches if you think about it. Cover from rockets is pretty vital

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

artillery remains the king of the battlefield

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Tunnels never stopped being good

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I think the US is also very confident, or at least claims to be very confident, in it's ability to using point defense weapons to protect bases. All those fancy radar guided guns that can shoot down rockets and missiles and mortars. I have been informed by extremely confident people that carrier battle groups are 100% invulnerable because thier point defenses are just sooooooo good. *eyeroll*

[-] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Too bad the point defense weapons can’t look up, where ballistic missiles come from.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The total victory during the 1991 Gulf War - during which thousands of Soviet-built Iraqi tanks were destroyed while the US itself sustained near zero losses - gave them an unmatched confidence about their own military capability.

In a few months’ time, the USSR would dissolve (I’ve heard that the US victory in Iraq gave the Soviet leadership quite a shock), thus ended the great rivalry between the two superpowers. China wasn’t even a thing to worry about yet.

America has won. US weaponry had demonstrated such supremacy that its greatest adversary of the Cold War couldn’t even stand a single blow of America’s mighty sword. The politicians began to ask among themselves: “do we really need to buy more of those weapons? we have no more enemies left to fight!”

The military industrial complex now faces the contradiction of being rendered irrelevant as the curtain of the Cold War falls. The only way to continue the grift is to bait the federal government into investing in super-expensive, over-ambitious projects, that which generates an endless spiral where hundreds of billions of dollars of budgetary spending could sink into.

Thus we have such programs as F-35 that never really quite work, and requires endless upgrades that eventually caused the government to overspend its original budget by more than 200%, still with no end in sight.

Meanwhile, the MIC derives their short-term profit from the stock market, ushering in the era of the financialization of military industry. Managed by Wall St bankers, the business is no longer one that manufactures functional weaponry (to fight whom? the Russians?? lol) but one massive grift economy where stock dividends for the shareholders reign supreme.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Those Iraqi T-72 tanks were export models that were even further downgraded, that didn't have the features and modernisation that equivalent Soviet tanks had, such as reactive armour and night vision systems. When they went up against the US domestic model M1 Abrams tanks with all the bells and whistles, they got crushed. Though the vast majority of Iraqi tanks were destroyed by A-10 Warthog attack aircraft after coalition forces secured air superiority. Of the 1350 Iraqi tanks destroyed in the battle of Norfolk, 900 of them were destroyed by A-10 aircraft. It was not an accurate representation of how the Soviet T-72B tanks would have faired in an actual war.

I know it's Quora, but it's a good explanation about why the Iraqi T-72s performed poorly

We've seen something similar, though on a much smaller scale, when export model Saudi Arabian M1 Abrams tanks get destroyed by the Houthis. It's not a representation of how the latest US M1 Abrams tanks would fair in a hypothetical war. Export tanks in general lack features.

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