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[-] spark947@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

But we should view it as a moral standard.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

But then you have the paradox of intolerance

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I disagree. We can cultivate consistent moral values, even if they aren't deterministic.

[-] Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, in an ideal world, tolerance would be a moral standard. But in a ideal world bad actors wouldn't take advantage of that moral standard by doing reprehensible shit and hiding behind "well you should be tolerant of my viewpoint" while simultaneously being intolerant themselves.

When we lose the latter, we can have the former - until then, we need to stop putting up with intolerant assholes who destroy lives (whether literally or metaphorically) and then say "but muh beliefs".

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There isn't a moral reason to tolerate infinite bad faith bullcrap outside of a philosophy textbook where we are obligated to pretend our behavior is government by rules like a fucking math problem. Back in reality land we are free to reject bad faith bullshit which predictably leads to bullshit.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

We can determine a consistent set of moral values, even if they aren't deterministic. The "but muh beliefs" people are just wrong, and it can be proved through general litigation. We have the systems, the philosophy, the legal know how and technology to uphold human rights. It just takes a lot of work.

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