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The public doesn’t understand the risks of a Trump victory. That’s the media’s fault
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I have little doubt that the country will end up as some version of Trump's authoritarian state. The question is the timing.
I actually think that our best chance of avoiding it (in the long run) is another Trump victory. He will make those changes so abruptly that people will react far more strongly than if we slid into an authoritarian state gradually. I mean....think about the possibility of Trump having won in 2020. The DNC would have to accept that they need to nominate a truly progressive candidate, and people would be demanding change immediately. Instead, we're justifying Biden/Harris again because they're not Trump.
Are you serious? Deploying the military to put down dissent is his strategy to deal with that. And we've seen it happen around the world. If the military gets involved in politics at home, it's bad news for everyone.
Too late. He's already normalized this behavior for too many people.
If Trump won in 2020 we'd never have another real election. That's the stakes now.
Almost reminds me of some other "president" from a different country. Vlad Putita? Or something like that.
Likely American windows will become flimsy and people just start falling randomly out of windows.
I think they'd rather die.
That is one of the options, yes.
I agree. Centrist leaders will do anything for their overlord billionaires to fight the (real, actual) left. Look no farther than the lead up to Nazi Germany. It's why the commies hate liberals (as in moderates, centrists, etc) so damn much.
And unfortunately, that gives them power in undermining progressives.
If he wins again he already has a plan and people working to have the military in the streets to slaughter protesters on day one. He is also planning to arrest/execute anyone that has tried to hold him responsible for anything. If he wins its game over for democracy full stop, he isn't going to take a chance of going to prison again.
I don't know what I said that gave you the impression I planned on laying down and letting a wanna-be fascist destroy this whole US experiment. I just think step one of the fight is making sure he does not regain power, and the simplest way to do that is everyone voting for the same opposition candidate. It sucks, but a divided electorate is a numbers game when close to half the US wants to see the other half destroyed (and eventually themselves destroyed - they just can't see it past the hate for others). They all treat it like its Monday Night Football or some bullshit, "were going to make you cry and drink your tears" and then next season (election) we do it again. Problem is, if Trump wins we both lose because he and his traitors aren't playing the same game, they mean to blow the whole god damn thing up. He isn't running on a change of policy, he is running on making the US into Nazi Germany as fast as he can (just like his dad would have wanted).
So no, I'm not going to do what the fascist tells me to do. And I suggest instead of talking shit and going after someone that clearly should be on the same team as you, that your anger would be better directed at those helping the fascists come to power in the first place.