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Genuine question, when will Germany stop simping for Israel? I get it, Hitler did the Holocaust, but that's gone. It's history. Hitler is gone and so are his goons. I think it's time to move on and just think logically. It's kinda pathetic at this point.
Never, because just like everyone else we get drowned in propaganda of how even entertaining the idea to not slaughter Palestinian children is somehow unbridled support for Hamas terrorism.
That being said, the part of the population not toally dumbed down yet to just parrot narratives often seems to be moving in the exact different direction and usually pushes back against a public discussion that purely consists of narratives and attempts to stifle every nuanced discussion. (PS: Ohh... and the right wing morons also have suddenly dicovered their love for Israel as anti-islam messages seem more important for fascists right now than anti-semitism. So at least half the messaging at the moment consists of talk about all those evil antisemitic leftists or some other delusion they love to spread. That's the real historic joke here: pseudo-nazis supporting Israel against evil muslims.)
Idk what parts you're from but nobody i know thinks the way you describe. Not sure where you're getting force fed propaganda.
Everyone here knows the hamas attack was cruel and must be judged. And independent from that also knows that bombing civilians to shit doesn't solve anything and should be punished as war crimes.
I want to hear the German government say exactly this. I'd love to hear "hey Hamas, fuck you, you terrorist fucks. Don't kill Israeli civilians. Hey Israel, fuck you, too, if you continue killing children. Stop your war crimes". They are not saying anything to condemn Israel's obvious war crimes. It's such a sad thing to see.
That's exactly what I said... and now find me a similiar statement in the mainstream media or from politicians in general. Good luck...
Dude, it‘s just not that different here than in other countries in the west. France, England, USA, there are the same debates. I don‘t know why you keep pushing this narrative, that we have some special propaganda here.
They'll stop after the revolution.
I really think it has less to do with the Holocaust and more to do with the material interests of the German capitalist class. Especially now when cheap Russian energy is off the table, so cheapish Middle Eastern energy will have to do. The only way that cheapish energy is readily available is if the US' Middle Eastern aircraft carrier and forward operating base is open for business.
Repentance for the crimes of the past is just a really convenient way the same capitalist class can get the plebs on board with their imperial designs.