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/c/café daily chat thread for 22 June 2023
(self.cafe)
Welcome to our virtual third place, The Café.
Come on in and make a new human connection over a cup of coffee (or Teh Tarik). This is a casual community, do whatever you want, share your oyen pics, your frustrations, and even organize a weekend picnic with the community. The world is your oyster.
Rules are simple, be kind and civil with each other. As with any other café, rude patrons will be kicked out.
I buka topik here: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/73476/How-do-kbin-instances-and-all-aggregator-protocols-work-to
Because there's a big risk vector on small instances if the news about FB joining federation is real. I'm already hearing speculation that Eugen (Masto guy) met with FB because FB is planning to throw money at instances like his so federating with FB will not kantoikan his servers with traffic. Speculation because with NDA signed no one is saying anything publicly.
So 1-2 punch rn, between reddit being what it is and everyone else is still getting their bearings and Zuckerberg making moves.
Does that mean if they do that, meta service like fb and insta will be able to link up with fediverse?
@Annoyed_Crabby we don't know the full details yet on how (i did share on cafe about 2 days ago what details we have like the proposed instance name) but short answer is yes. Details indicate that it's going to be a bridge for its Instagram side where it exports to a (likely) Masto instance. And Fedi accounts can follow there. And from there, well, it spiders outwards... Once they get boosted, then which instance picks it up etc. And because how masto works on the backend every change propagates down and upline. That's how u can accidentally DDoS small instances and webhosts if something gets too popular (it's happened, and that's with pre-reddit population size, lol)
@imaginelizard
I'd imagine that would be a death of small instance, both getting overloaded and their user will simply use meta. Damn it's gonna get messier
@Annoyed_Crabby oh yeah, this guy documented his experience (he's a popular guy, fedi-side) https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/
Then of course, before you guys discovered the place, mastodon.social had to be silenced or defed a few times already because open signups+ popularity = spammers sending crypto DMs across Fedi lol. They had to do the same thing every time: close registration and then manually clear out the accounts (they can't afford to be cincai the way other places can once they get big; Fedi does also run a lot on reputation + if you suggest, ah then you join mastodon.social lor, sure will kena)
@imaginelizard
I see. I wasn't aware of that sort of downfall merely by interacting with people. That's a very detailed article, thanks!
@Annoyed_Crabby no probs!
@imaginelizard