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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You live in the largest, most expensive propaganda machine that's ever been created by man

You're talking about a country and an ideology that propaganda machine has been willing to burn the world with nuclear hellfire to contain for a hundred years

Learn about the things you're talking about. "The forgotten war"

Yes. North Korea is and has always been the good guys.

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

That's impossible to believe but you can swallow the idea they tell their people they've dug up unicorns. You believe they make everyone have the same haircut as the dictator but you can't believe that an enemy of a country currently assisting and giving protection to a genocide could be the good guy.

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No they don't, actually. And the way you brush off someone asking you to learn something with a vacuous smug affectation should be your first clue that you are indeed uneducated at least.

Grunge is dead. "I don't care everything sucks" is infantile. Everyone has seen the 'both sides it's complicated taking a position is a sign of mental illness' bullshit enough at this point. It's a trick to feel smart that doesn't work anymore. Get a new bit.

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

"The forgotten war" refers to the Korean war. I'm asking you to learn about the Korean war.

"Contender" "destroying" oh my god please shut up

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they both suck, dude.

Why though? What makes you think that other than "in bad country it is bad" ?

What actual things do you know about this country that drives you to have such an emotional reaction? Do you have this reaction about any south american countries or african countries? Many of them are capitalist countries that are significantly worse off for their people. Why is your emotional reaction significantly different for this one in particular?

The answer is propaganda. Your assessment is not a levelheaded on based on any real educated understanding of the data in comparison with other countries. Your assessment is based on feels acquired through the popular beliefs. Guess where those popular beliefs come from? The same place yours have come from, with the same level of understanding that you have. It's ignorant feels all the way down. Created by the strongest media propaganda machine ever devised in history.

Is any of this to say that it's all fucking rosey over there? Fuck no. Most of us are not juche and believe in a mixed market approach like what is being undertaken in Cuba, Vietnam, or China. We mostly have large criticisms of the isolated approach. But does that mean we buy into all the bullshit spread in the west and perpetuate it uncritically? Also no. That's what you're seeing here. People countering the utterly ignorant western bullshit liberals spew isn't an explicit endorsement of the country, but an attempt to get people to calm the fuck down about it and look at it in a more measured way.

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Read any books written by Bruce Cummings

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

They genuinely are the good guys.

[-] HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You should move there and leave the internet to the rest of us then. Why keep hanging out in the giant propaganda machine, right?

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

"love it or leave it" says the "anti-authoritarian"

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