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Trump Allies Plot to Stock Government With Up to 54,000 Loyalists
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It's probably best not to engage the "both sides are bad" trolls.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
It's not "both sides are bad", it's pointing out the Democrats are basically letting it happen without much of a fight. You can criticize both sides without being a centrist
Yup, that's bullshit. It's not that the Democrats are letting it happen without a fight. It's that the media aren't reporting on what Democrats are trying to do as much as they're reporting on the juicy details of Republican corruption. Better ratings.
In the end, it comes down to elections. Democrats will follow the rules. Republicans won't. So if we don't want the worst case scenario, we have to do our part and let the Democrats do theirs.
Like nearly every single “both sides” argument in all of online history, this fulfills one of these two roles:
Detract from something good about Democrats
Deflect from something shitty about Republicans
You’ll hardly ever see a “both sides” argument in the wild that does one of these things:
Detract from something good about Republicans
Deflect from something shitty about Democrats
You may draw your own conclusions from that, gentle reader.
Credit belongs to be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
It's a really poignant observation. If you're constantly putting down only one side to try and argue it's the same as the other side, the two sides are very obviously not the same.
I also wanted to touch on this -- the very nature of Good versus Evil is that Good is always handicapped. Evil can let bystanders die as collateral. Evil can abandon its allies and those it claims to protect. Good can't. Good is bound by rules even when it's being morally questionable. It's what separates Good from Evil, in usual circumstances.
This isn't to say that we should sit and twiddle our thumbs if Trump creates concentration camps for "vermin" and his undesirables. At that point, it's not usual circumstances anymore. Good cannot do Good unless it breaks some of those rules for the bigger picture. We can't rig elections preemptively, but we sure as hell can rebel against a legally, duly elected president.
I'm not saying this out of idealism, but because of what we want to protect. If we readily abandon the institutions and laws we want to protect, that weakens those even further. The best outcome that will protect and preserve a peaceful democracy just be accomplished through that peaceful democracy. When that isn't possible, you're still going to protect it, but if you succeed the democracy will be considerably weakened. Change through violent rebellion just makes it more likely that the change will be overthrown in a new violent rebellion.
If the party doesn't take this opportunity to move right and demand votes anyway like they've been doing for half a century, I'll be happy to be wrong.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but it's unclear which party you're talking about.
Maybe they mean the presidential candidate that keeps forgetting he is (still) not up against Obama
I think they meant the Senator who keeps having mini-strokes during press briefings
They're talking about the California democrat senator Dianne Feinstein who remained a senator until her death at 90yo. She was by no means fit for office for several years leading up to her death.
Not American, so I was confused because there've also been stories about McConnell, Biden and Trump having lapses in international media.
To be honest, Biden has never been a good public speaker. He's had "gaffes" his entire career. But nothing as bad as Trump's off-topic rants or McConnell's blank mini-stroke moments.
Yeah, the whole 'no term limits' thing is starting to become a huge problem across the board since we have people making decisions that they'll never live to see the consequences of.
I'm not American. Here's a list of US politicians who have had 'senior moment' gaffes or incidents based on international(!!!) coverage of US politics:
Biden, Trump, Feinstein, and McConnell.
I know US politics is hyper-partisan, but please don't disingeniously deny they're too old to govern, based on party preference. A turd is still a turd, even if it's better than a bag of vomit.
This is sarcasm, right?
If this surprised Democrats, they weren't paying any attention at all. They're not taking the threat seriously. They're just going to try to take advantage of the situation. It's idiotically reckless.