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And just like that, any shutdown is no longer the fault of Republicans being unable to control their own caucus.
We're expected to vote with Republicans, but never the other way around.
Democrats are expected to vote with Republicans when it's in their own interest. That's the whole point of bipartisanship.
Avoiding a shutdown is in their own interest. The CR proposed by Johnson is unconventional but does not significantly conflict with Democratic goals.
So none of this significantly conflicts with democrat goals?
Making it legal for companies to discriminate based on abortion care
Removal of funds from the IRS
Medicare spending decrease
Guess the Dem leadership is even worse than I thought 🤦
As I understand it now, the CR currently being discussed does not include those provisions. It is simply funding the government at current levels until January/February. And only notably excluding additional funding for Israel and Ukraine.
That doesn't sound like something that the GOP would do. There must be catch if they're pretending that's all it is.
For one thing, Kevin Mccarthy was deposed for less (as in more awful and thus better according to the GOP) and they still have the same stupid rules and the same stupid congresspeople who did that..
This is just a continuing resolution that contains nothing but continuing current funding levels. One odd thing is for some of government it's going until February, but for other parts it's only going until January. The catch is the gop wants more time to write their insane budgets that contain all their dead on arrival proposals. The continuing resolution gives them more time to write those. Then they pass their insane budget that no Democrat or even most senate Republicans would be okay with, and refuse to negotiate. Then when the funding lapses they plan on shouting, look republicans passed a budget, this is all the democrats fault. Their party is so dysfunctional though they can't even write a wish list budget that's nonserious and would never pass, they're still working on it. Because of the weird structure of the continuing resolution, it'll be an odd government shutdown where some parts get shut down in January and some until February. That's why some were saying the Democrats might not go for this resolution. It is pretty much a signal they intend to let the funding lapse in January while they try to push their far right extremist budget plans through. I doubt the extreme right people that pushed out McCarthy will mind this plan, as long as the new speaker is giving in to all their crazy ideas for the final budget proposal that will never pass, whenever they actually finish it.
Ah I see. That makes sense in the usual "comically inept yet still dangerous villains" style of the GOP. Thanks for the explanation 🙂
None of those are in the CR under discussion.
All it does is keep government open until early next year.
If the stopgap is truly "fund government as-is until January & February" like the article says, then it's great for Democrats. Keep this whole game of Republicans infighting with each other over tons of unrelated riders going for another couple months.
That is what it is. The previous proposed bills had a bunch of "kick trans people out of the military" sort of shit.
The new CR isn't a full CR, it notably does not have funding for ukraine or israel, but it is basically just business as usual. The fact that a significant portion of the dem caucus is voting for it has already angered a number of the Rep caucus (who will be voting against it).
And when are Republicans expected to vote with Democrats?
Republicans vote with Democrats whenever Democrats vote with Republicans.
In this case, significant members of both parties want to avoid a shutdown, and the CR will accomplish this without forcing Democrats to make any other concessions.