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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

We live in a very not-brainwashed society yea jokerfied .

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[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

It's very deliberate

It's a lot easier to dismiss an argument when you have the thought-terminating cliche of "Conspiracy Theory" ready for any statement that takes more than 3/5's of a second to explain

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

Never mind that the whole reason we have a distinct word for "conspiracy" is because it's a phenomenon that you encounter in the real world.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Me: brings up a good point that compares or contrasts an AES to the west

Them: THAT'S WHATABOUTISM!!!!1!!!

Me: ...and?

[-] WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[-] roux@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago
[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Holy shit that thing is loose in the wild and I love it.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

Honestly couldn't have been introduced to it at a better time. It's hilarious.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

It really was pretty slick of them to just come up with a term that means "pointing our hypocrisy" that somehow negates the hypocrisy.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

Absolutely. I can't even figure out how to approach some arguments without it though.

It's like I'm not trying to say my guy killing people is ok or whatever, I'm trying to say others can't condone the bad parts of, say the USSR, while willfully ignoring the whole history of the United States as essentially a global terrorism state.

But as soon as I drop the Big W, they act like they won for recognizing a fallacy or some shitm

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

Yea you would think pointing out we do the exact thing, often times worse, so we aren't really in any position to condemn or, if some libs had their way, invade another country because of it would be a pretty airtight argument but unfortunately whether they realize it or not libs are just as hypocritical as chuds when it comes to the foreign policy positions of "it's ok when we do it, if anybody else does it it's completely unacceptable"

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's especially bizarre because one could argue comparison is the basis for all logic and reason

How do you even understand anything about the world without ever comparing 2 things? It would be impossible

Whatabotism as a concept is an insult to all intelligent life, the english language (critical support) and especially whichever of our ancestors first evolved to rub two braincells together and be capable of comparing things in the rirst place

I'd go as far as saying that believing in whataboutism is a rejection of sentience

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