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How do we know that everyone on the internet isn't just a bot?
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this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
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Bots have limitations. They avoid certain specific topics, or answer in very vague way.
Also, some of us met in real-space, soooo....
do we? or do we only REMEMBER doing it? ;)..
Ha! That's what the government wants you to think. What actually happened was
Yeah, I can speak out on this just fine,
We do. Because there are many physical proofs of our meetings.
are there? i sit here in front of my computer, no person anywhere. also not a single sign of a person being here except me. for all we know we could be a boltzmann brain imaging our past life and we will be gone in a few se
Yes, they are there. For example: I'm just about to go for a walk and I will see the same markings I made with my friend some 12 years ago, in the same spot.
what tells you that you are currently not in a dream and the whole reality is just created that way? and before you read this text right now, there existed nothing because you just got created with fake memory's right now (boltzman brain)? :p
(sorry, i know this goes too far now and i should stop. so i will now :D)
It's ok, questions imply the revision of personal viewpoint, so they are very welcomed.
Anyway: each and everyone of us interacts with the world around us, changes it, even if these are small changes. These changes can be observed, confirmed by many other inhabitants of this world, and they often evolve when we no longer pay attention to them, or forget about them. We often learn about things we did in the past, that became something else, were important for someone else, and so on and so forth.
The typical example might be that we left some apple somewhere, visited the place years later only to find a small apple tree growing there.
This suggests that the reality around us is persistent and it works even when we don't observe it, according to laws and rules we might be oblivious to. As such, it can't be a mere dream.
Let's say that all those memories are implanted. Ok, but since these memories are implanted into many different inhabitants of this reality, and not just "these memories", but their variations, including the evolutions I've been talking about, it'd mean, that there's some big, huge enterprise tasked with keeping "the storyline" intact.
Imagine the energy needed to do just that, the amount of operators and administrators that'd have to pay attention to every scratch you make on a wall, every stone you move, every tree you plant, consciously or not...
Text bots have been able to pass a Turing test and be indisguinshable from a human for a long time. They had chat bots that could trick you into thinking they were real people, that college kids made just for fun on IRC and even in games back in the 90's.
These rules that ChatGPT imposes so it doesn't create something someone may find harmful are relatively new. And there's no law saying they need to be there.
Turing test isn't and never was a good way to discern a human from a bot, since many real people wouldn’t pass it. It has been criticized from day 1 and today it's nothing more than peculiarity.
Check this thread for "Turing" - we already discussed it and some people provided very interesting alternatives to it.