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submitted 11 months ago by Salamendacious@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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[-] sederx@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

So you’re saying that if I wanted to suicide I won’t if I don’t have a gun. What an odd take.

its not that odd. pressing a trigger is much easier than hanging yourself or cutting yourself or jumping. this is a fact. plus many people attempt suicide and fail and some of them dont attempt anymore. with a gun the chances of not being successful are very low.

[-] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 11 months ago

no its not a fact, its the opposite, world wide suicide is well documented and not a unique American problem it is a fact America does not even make the top 20.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

So you want to claim "suicide is a complex problem with many factors" when people mention suicide by firearms but the moment you want to pull out some statistics, all those complex factors are brushed aside without a second thought so you can claim "look, most guns doesn't mean most suicides".

Without a statistics from a parallel universe where America has gun laws that make even a token effort to work, those numbers are meaningless.

What we can do is look at every other form of means reduction that has ever been enacted, and watch how the number of people committing suicide doesn't just drop for that method, it drops for all methods, with results comparable to psychotherapy and medication.

You're going to have to choose which matters to you more: suicide prevention or being a simp for right-wing, pro-gun Americans and the lobby group that programs them.

[-] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

"with a gun the chances of not being successful are very low."

This is a wild statement anything the back of this one up. I might learn something but I'm not going to take your word for it. I need a source.

https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/more-lethal/

Till you provide a source I'm going with this source

[-] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Good luck with that

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