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Biden says he still believes Xi Jinping is a dictator
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That's the most recent revision. The original document didn't make those distinctions, and it's what people think of.
So what you mean to say is that Hamas doesn’t use it to call for genocide of Jewish peoples, and that you were spreading misinformation in your previous comment.
I should edit it to be past tense, fair does.
It remains true however that they said it in their original charter. My point is just that people are (erroneously) thinking of that previous charter when it comes to this. I'm no longer passing any value judgment. The association is valid, but it's based on an old revision and new revision doesn't have that association.
And in the 80s it was illegal to be openly homosexual in most of the US. We don’t judge people based on decades old statements, we interact with them in the real world, now. You are passing judgment, by implying modern Hamas use of an explicitly liberatory phrase (that predates Hamas by at least 20 years) means that they are in support of genocide. Something which “from the river to the sea” has never once in its history represented. It has always been a cry for one party solution, and it will always be so.
I don't disagree with your first point. The second I still have to disagree -- it's a fraught term. If a substantial group of people find the word to be antisemitic, even if their reasoning is flawed it's best to just not use it. In most circumstances it isn't being used in a hateful way, but the connotation still exists.
Look at it this way. You and I may understand the historical context, but the average person doesn't. They're going to see it called antisemitic, and believe it too since it is in the original charter. If we're protesting and demonstrating to the average person, why use the phrase? We need to separate criticism of Israel from antisemitism, and using a term considered antisemitic by many is completely counterproductive to that.