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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by FuckyWucky@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

I do not know why this specific fact made to the front page or whether if it has something to do with the seige on Gaza right now and American Government being totally pog with it.

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[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 71 points 11 months ago

It for the same reason why the Holodomor is considered an anti-Ukrainian genocide in particular whereas Kazakh deaths, despite being much worse proportionally, are rarely brought up.

There's a dividing line here and I can't qWhite make it out lea-think

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

I guess we know that Russia is officially not white

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

They’ve had their whiteness pass revoked for a while now

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

Europe's never really considered eastern Europeans to be real whites. They've always been a bit too Asian for the west and north.

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fun fact: the original English definition of "Europe" excluded western Russia.

The Brits didn't even know what the Ural hills were until ~1870. When they found out about them, they jumped at the chance to make them define Europe, because they had no other geographic justification (btw these hills are not a plate boundary and do not impede movement, they are basically as nonexistent as hills can be)

There were also multiple British geographers who wanted Britain to be its own continent separate from Europe.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

Fuck I never knew the Urals were so low they make the Great Dividing Range, the archetypal "barely mountains" look like the fucking Himalayas.

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING white is fake

not just politics, but geography, taxonomy, etc etc

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

I'm old enough that the idea of Ukraine being considered Europe soundes utterly ridiculous.

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago
[-] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

I think it's a really good example of how whiteness is contextual and can be extended and withdrawn to suit the situations. Slavs being White seemed utterly preposterous to me, that's just not how racists work, but then the Ukraine war happened and the Ukrainians were immediately race-lifted. And now the Ukrainians all have proud Viking-Aryan heritage as evinced by their definitely not Nazi "ancient heritage" symbols.

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

the aryans weren't white

but yes otherwise true

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

Nazi "Aryans" or actual historical Aryans?

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago
[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

Reminds me of the very specific type of person who gets mad when people talk about Roma victims of the Holocaust.

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