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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by khoi@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Is it really decentralized and private?

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[-] PupBiru@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

i hope that everyone realises that the benefit of activitypub has nothing to do with mastodon taking to mastodon, lemmy talking to lemmy, etc but the strength is tooting a reply to a peertube video and having a discussion on lemmy in which all these comments are shared

… bluesky has none of this

however, what bluesky has:

  • (currently) the sign up process is easy: you don’t need to understand federation or why to choose a server - you just… register
  • honestly, more people interact in the circles that i’m in (no; it’s not furry: i hear though that their population has exploded though) critical mass is more important than anything for a social platform
  • custom feeds are legit cool af… i don’t have time to filter posts and we can’t expect people to add their own metadata; i want code to do it for me! its like “the algorithm” is now many and you can choose which one depending on your mood… also if you don’t like it you can choose a whole new one that some random 3rd party wrote, or make one yourself

none of that is intrinsic to bsky, or will remain in the long-term i think (federation implies needing a more complex sign-up process)

[-] Ferk@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I expect it would be technically possible to have lemmy-like or peertube-like services built on top of the AT protocol Bluesky uses, like with ActivityPub. And I expect if/when that happens the communication across services would probably work too.

In fact, accounts being "portable" in the AT protocol can potentially make the integration more seamless across different services, not only might the posts be seen from different services, but you might be able to directly access those different services with the same account. Imagine if you could login in lemmy with a mastodon account or vice-versa.

Bluesky is just one of the possible services. But as long as the invites are private and you can't host your own instance, I wouldn't even consider it an alternative. I think it's a bit early to judge, both its positives and its negatives.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

It seems BlueSky have explicit plans for their protocol to extend to all types of platforms: https://atproto.com/blog/building-on-atproto#what-to-expect

Which means they’re coming for the fediverse, and may just succeed.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

I was going to say the same but don’t know enough about BlueSky’s ATProtocol to be sure about the possibilities.

In principle, you’d hope they’ve added enough flexibility on there for different platform types. If they have, next year could get interesting as they open up federation. There seems to be a bit of buzz and interest around BlueSky, and if they garner the interest of enough developers who feel like they can make new things on the platform/protocol, then new things could happen and, if they attract a sizeable Twitter migration, go kinda mainstream pretty quickly.

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