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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by vestmoria@linux.community to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I only use brave at work because it somehow bypasses the firewall there and I can install and use it. I run it to watch videos about cooking or traveling and reading news when I have nothing to do at my job.

At home I usually run tor browser (tbb) and firefox with addons to block ads and tracking.

I'm not sure I should turn to brave as default browser. How do you see it?

what's your experience with brave like?

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[-] v8bmx3@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

For a browser that claims to be privacy focused, it's not trustworthy (as indicated by the other commentors). I've ditched it myself some time ago

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you think the company isn't trustworthy that's completely understandable by why does that affect the browser? It's fully open source. If they're doing something shady with it people would instantly become aware of it.

[-] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

We are aware of their involvement in crypto shit, and are therefore negative to them. Open source does not mean good (as in not evil), nor good (as in not bad).

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You mean the crypto shit you can disable in a couple of clicks and completely ignore? Firefox doesn't have that good of defaults either. You also have disable things like Pocket and change some settings to make it good. It's why Hardened Firefox and Librewolf exist.

And where did I say that open source = good? I just said it being open source makes it easily to see if they are doing something shady. It's how they were caught changing the referral URLs a few years ago. If they try to pull anything they would be caught the same way they were before.

[-] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

If they try to pull anything they would be caught the same way they were before.

They were caught. My problem is that you think being caught deceiving your end users should go unpunished. Betraying your customers in that way should mean the end of the product.

The fact that they do crypto shit is a general argument against them, that your arguments might counteract. The fact that they did SECRET crypto shit should be 100% nuclear.

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 3 points 11 months ago

The fact that they did SECRET crypto shit should be 100% nuclear.

It wasn't a secret. By the nature of being open source, it is in the open. They literally can't do anything secret which is what makes trusting the company a non-factor. You just have to trust that the community stays on top of things which is the same amount of trust required for any other open source project. Think about what happened with Audacity, they tried adding telemetry and was immediately called out for it.

And nuclear? They added a variable in a URL. As far as I know it was only for Binance. It's not like that's a privacy concern because all that tells Binance is the user came from Brave... which they could already get from the user agent when you visit.

And you know who else adds variables in URLs? Firefox. Type something in the address bar and hit enter (with default settings). You'll see ?client=firefox-b-1-d in your Google search. Should they have added the referral code? Absolutely not. But it's not that heinous.

[-] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

makes trusting the company a non-factor
You just have to trust that the community stays on top of things

With your reasoning the latter point doesn't matter, since you believe no action should be taken when the community discovers things.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 11 months ago

This is how we are making you aware of it.

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