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[-] bigbluealien@kbin.social 132 points 11 months ago

99% of sites only need to know your screen aspect ratio and maybe available input devices, can't think of a good reason to share anything else

[-] julianh@lemm.ee 74 points 11 months ago

Knowing OS is useful for download links.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 104 points 11 months ago

I’d be down for an ask to allow that info. Sort of like how sites request access to cam and mic.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

Before Windows 10, NVidia and others had this button Detect what thing suits me best on their websites. Now many of them just look it up in one's fingerprint without asking.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

Oh no, they'd have to list more than one link,the horror!

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 11 months ago

The vast majority of people would have no clue what to download.

[-] daFRAKKINpope@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Let them be confused. They'll learn eventually. Or they won't. Computers are too user friendly today anyway.

[-] 1371113@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Fuckin oath. If we cater to the stupid too much the folks who are middling just get lazy. Make people think. It’s important that we know how to use our brains.

[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Microsoft hides their links if they see you run linux. So you need to manually set your OS in the browser settings to see the download link. Very convenient.

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

having 3 different ones solves that issue though? the user can figure out whic OS they're running pretty well imo.

[-] Godort@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

I can tell you've never had to do T1 tech support before.

It's kind of staggering just how illiterate users can be.

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 16 points 11 months ago

I doubt the fix is to make them need less literacy

[-] Strykker@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

When you are competing for customers not providing the illiterate morons of the world a simple UI leads to them going to your competitor which does.

And unfortunately those illiterate morons outnumber every one else by a significant chunk.

[-] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's a fair perspective, but most people strive for as few clicks between users and their targets as possible. Forcing a user to become semi-tech-competent by sending them on a fetch quest to figure out their os, while not an inherently bad thing, does work against this overall goal....

Idk, it's like education vs service industry goal setting, that's all I'm trying to get at here lol

Edit: plus, there's no guarantee that it will remain just the big 3 for forever. There was a time before Linux, maybe we'll see a time after windows.... Unlikely, but one can dream lol

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

Since we have CSS what would be the purpose of the server knowing the aspect ratio?

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

Ideally, to save bandwidth on both sides, the server would only want to serve you the JS and CSS you need. I'm not sure how frequently that optimization is made, however.

[-] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

I’m a bit rusty on this, but I think you’d need to split your Sass/SCSS/etc before Webpack will perform tree-shaking or allow lazy-loading. I don’t think many devs wrote it that way: personally, I like my mobile rules beside my desktop ones, since my styling is component-wise.

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

I haven't done UI work in years so I'm not sure how they do it these days.

[-] bigbluealien@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Fair point, there could be reasons, and I'd say there's no privacy concerns if that's all they get, but I know it's part of fingerprinting. I said 99% so they don't even need to know that

[-] hex@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

that's how css gets its media queries, user agents

[-] cardboardchris@lemmings.world 0 points 11 months ago

as a front end web developer, I've found it useful to know what user agent is requesting a page in order to load conditional styling. For example, to compensate for Safari's god-awful outlines support (pre-version 16).

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