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Arguing his way into a more painful death
Every crack in the death penalty is another step towards abolishing the death penalty.
Agreed, my read of the quotes is that it's saying something like "you can't claim ANY execution method is humane because we don't research how people feel while we are killing them, so just stop."
For real. There is plenty of research on what death by hypoxia does to the human body. Nitrogen being an inert gas, the sentenced wouldn't feel anything different than breathing (notwithstanding their own anxiety). Lethal injection- muscle paralysis followed by heart failure - is the much more cruel execution method.
I think if the legal injection went exactly as planned, it would be painless. But that gets botched all the time.
Fun fact, this same inmate was spared last November because they couldn't find a vein. He's a prime candidate for lethal injection going wrong. It's part of the reason they wanted to use nitrogen toxicity.
States no longer have access to the drugs used in lethal injection because the suppliers didnt want to be associated with all that. IIRC one state tried their own cocktail of drugs recently and it went horribly wrong.
Not toxicity, but asphyxiation. Nitrogen's harmless, but you need oxygen and will sleep fast if you don't get it.
It goes exactly as planned. It's agony, and the prescribed under dosage of the anesthesia ensures it.
Exactly this. There is a lot of experimental and direct human knowledge of nitrogen asphyxiation.
The "anoxic environment distressing to some animals" is specific to rodentia or other creatures that have been exposed to anoxic environments in their evolutionary process.
Must animals use a buildup of waste products to sense a need for fresh air. But in an anoxic environment (like when breathing only nitrogen, or when breathing subterranean gases that have similarly supplanted oxygen), you still breathe out the waste products, so everything seems fine.
But since rodents live underground on a regular basis and have realistic probabilities of encountering low- or no-oxygen environments, they evolved the ability specifically to detect oxygen - that is, they evolved the ability to realoze there's no oxygen and freak out.
But for us, it's blissful sleep, possibly preceded by a case of the sillies.
Not really, though. This is an area that is tested on a regular basis in humans. It's a normal part of air force pilot training to undergo hypoxia, precisely because it's something so difficult to recognize, and because people don't react to it - which could be deadly at hgh altitudes.
You could possibly make a case that for someone with COPD or who otherwise has had constantly elevated levels of carbon dioxide in their blood, where they may have adapted to using oxygen to drive the respiratory process. But in actual cases of acute hypoxia, people don't freak out, panic, or in most cases even become slightly uncomfortable. They go to sleep.
He’s trying to argue his way out of execution while appeals are being filed.