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Conservative Group Accidentally Reveals Its Secret Donors. Some of Them Are Liberal Orgs.
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Hey look, another thing liberals will completely ignore while whining that anyone who doesn't VBNMH is a horrible person
If they vote for Trump or RFK Jr., they are, in fact, a horrible person.
Good thing you don't have to vote for either
What is the point of voting for anyone else? What does it accomplish?
It lets democrats know they can't just get away with being and inch left of Republicans, because they way shit is now they're just gonna go as far right as they possibly can because it's more profitable and doesn't cost enough votes to not be worth it
So it lets Republicans win. Gotcha. Seems to me like letting fascism take over to teach someone a lesson is maybe the wrong thing to do?
We have fascism because of democrats sliding farther right along with republicans. We sure as fuck can't just keep letting shit get worse forever and ever, unless you think that waiting until liberals are right of Hitler is preferable to not letting that happen?
So we can't let fascism get worse and the solution to that is to let Republicans win in 2024. I see.
And you want to keep voting for the people slowly turning into fascists until there's no nonviolent way out. Seriously, what way out is there when democrats are trying to go as far right as they can? Are we just supposed to wait until shit is unfixable to try and make a stand against them?
Edited because what I said in my original comment was completely uncalled for, and I'm sorry for saying it
I'm still not getting how letting Republicans win means less fascism.
Fascism is unavoidable. We can let democrats know that we won't let them perpetrate it, or we can VBNMH and let them know they can do literally anything and still get votes
And letting Republicans win will do that?
It's the only thing I can think of that might, other than a revolution that'll never happen because Americans will let anything happen as long as they feel comfortable enough. Do you have a better idea?
Okay, why aren't you fomenting revolution and instead just voting for people who have no chance of winning?
You're right, I should totally start a scrappy underground resistance and overthrow the government instead of just not supporting democrats
You're the one claiming a revolution is needed. Not my fault you'd rather argue with people on the internet than start one.
So what's the play? Democrats aren't gonna magically start going left, and a revolution isn't happening, so how do we stop dems from going farther and farther right?
That is not an explanation for why you aren't fomenting revolution.
So you have no answer. You'll just keep voting blue even when they go after your rights.
I gave you an explanation, it won't fucking happen. Are you a fed or just stupid?
I'm pretty sure you're the one who has no answer since I asked you first.
I did answer, you didn't. A revolution can't happen here without things going completely to shit (or republicans will revolt because things aren't shitty enough), and even then I doubt it'll happen. So tell me, what's the play? Keep voting for democrats until they magically start moving left against their own best interests?
So voting isn't a solution and you're not going to foment a revolution... so your solution is to sit on the internet and gripe?
My solution is that I vote for democrats locally and in bigger elections when they run against far right republicans (sadly that's usually what happens, especially in the south), and don't when they're not running against horrible people and/or aren't likely to lose. I just can't stand people acting like criticizing any Democrat or voting for anyone who isn't a Democrat ever is ontologically evil. A moderate Democrat nowadays is barely left of Reagan and that scares the shit out of me. I don't see much of a way to curb that other than voting against them when literal fascists aren't running.
Were you being totally honest about not recognizing my answers to "why not foment a revolution"? If you're a troll you knocked it out of the park, you've been in my head rent free bc I can't stop wondering how someone can be that oblivious to such obvious responses. One more time in case you still missed it: my answer is that things aren't fucked up and fashy enough for it to be preferable to no revolution, and even if it gets that bad there'd likely not be enough people willing or able to revolt.
Can you tell me your solution to democrats going farther right?
Maybe you're a fed and you're stupid, I really can't tell if your reading comprehension is that bad or if you're just trying to bait me into calling for a revolution
Insulting me is not an answer to why you aren't fomenting revolution.
With the pretty much two parties system the US has this is easy to happen.
You currently have a side that has profitted from your back, is being judged for it after getting kicked out, and is trying now to return and profit for even more personal gain disregarding what you want and need. Are you really sure you want to vote someone that has been shown to have no problem with commiting treason to his own country?
That is the current logic behind the no matter what. In the US you actually have a candidate that shouldn't run for president of any country.