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When I was a kid, I knew murder was wrong, hurt others, and would negatively impact my future in ways I could not foresee. I knew me being a child was not an excuse to commit murder, just like it wasn't an excuse to start fights, steal, curse, harass, eat nothing but junk-food, run around naked etc.
I'd wager the vast majority of children around me thought the same. Were you an exception? Lol.
The idea that kids can't know what they're doing is wrong or that they will face consequences is retarded.
It's not radical in Sweden, and they have children committing murder left and right because they know they'll get off easy. Some of the gangsters in Sweden tried to commit murder in neighboring Norway and ended up getting 20 years.
What's really sad is how bleeding-hearts routinely get taken advantage of and it's up to adults to fix the issues you cause.
Do you believe in rehabilitation? Would you say your values are exactly the same now as they were when you were a child? Do you think that people who grew up in unhealthy environments come out of it with a well-formed sense of psychonormativity?
I'm not going to indulge your derailing questions.
Everything you say you should be telling to the victims of these criminals. Go ahead, tell them the people who murdered their loved ones for (checks notes) money should get off easy because they 'didn't know any better.'
Fuck that. Glad people like you don't govern the world, lol. We'd be at the mercy of the worst of us because you'd keep saying 'they can be better!'
I used to work in restorative justice and you'd be surprised at the benefits for the offenders AND the victims/families of victims when I worked in criminology so I've had this conversation with the victims.
Does it always work? No. But when it does does it improve things? Generally yes. It's not black and white.
The Sweden child murder rate is going to need a source.
I can present a link - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/27/sweden-seeks-to-stem-deadly-rise-in-youth
It's actually quite a positive story though (I think). Crime is up but the police commissioner is pragmatic about how to try to curb it through early intervention etc.
You're commenting on an article about a bleeding-heart system working beyond anyone's wildest expectations.
Kill 'Em All
Alll of Sweden's murders are like a busy day for the United States. Left and right 😂