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[-] LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

So first off, no, Americas extreme left is not all that extreme. The tankies we have here are few and far between, meanwhile people with nazi iconography are openly protesting in front of Disney World. We don't have any significant population of soviet-style communism here, and all of our communists are about labor rights and reducing that wealth inequality. I knew one guy who was actually sad about Castro's death, and everyone in our lefty-as-fuck circles called him stupid for it. No one here is advocating for the forcible seizure of everyone's property to be redistributed. You have no idea what actual extreme far left is. Americas left just wants socialized health care and a decent living wage, and to maybe have rights even when they're trans. We can talk about the Democrats all you want, but now we're talking about conservatives, who for the most part still don't want to do anything about police violence, and the prison-and-military industrial complex that lets them benefit from being the world police. They're not left, or even centrist, and the Democratic party doesn't accurately represent what American leftists want, they're just a compromise--limp-wristed do-nothings playing tug-of-war with Republicans, and letting the rope slip further and further, loosing because they refuse to fight dirty against an opponent that fights dirty

So you wanna reduce the Gini Coefficient? Stop voting Republican. Democrats will suck the dick and lick the boots of corporations too, but not nearly as much, and they're weak-willed enough to cave when we call them out on it in time if they don't have Republicans to keep shifting the overton window. It is Republican policies since at least Ronald Reagan that have consistently benefited corporations. Republicans are the source of income inequality

Just, I don't understand how you can throw your lot in with neonazis, and the KKK, and think you're voting for the right people. The 20 or so Tankies we have in this country voted for Biden, sure, but they weren't happy about it. Donald Trump got a fucking cult

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 months ago

Just, I don't understand how you can throw your lot in with neonazis, and the KKK, and think you're voting for the right people. The 20 or so Tankies we have in this country voted for Biden, sure, but they weren't happy about it. Donald Trump got a fucking cult

This paragraph completely invalidated everything you said, because it's painfully clear yhat you have no idea what you're talking about and built a strawman in your head.

Go read my comment again: where the fuck did I ever say I voted for Republicans? I'll tell you: fucking nowhere.

Do I hate Beto O'Rourke? Yes, but I also don't live in Texas where he ran for governor. I vote pretty much straight-ticket in favor of Democrats even when they have terrible candidates like Hillary Clinton.

I recommend you sit down and shut up until you learn how to actually read/listen to people's arguments. Then you won't go off the rails on a strawman and make yourself look like a fool.

[-] LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Forgive me for thinking that in a question asking conservatives what they thought, I might see a conservative saying what they thought. You dismissing everything I said because of one incorrect assumption makes me think you really do wanna just ignore everything else I said. Don't vote Republican? Good. Why are you here then? If you call yourself a conservative, then vote democrat, then that can only suggest that democrats still align with your conservative values, which goes back to that earlier point where Americas left wing is right of center in Europe--That our democrats are still considered conservative

And if you're not a conservative, then why are you here arguing about what the left doesn't understand?

Anyway, I guess since I didn't pinpoint your exact political ideology, it doesn't matter what I said about how Republican policies regarding businesses and unchecked capitalism is directly responsible for income inequality. May as well start voting Republican now. Everything I said is clearly a lie. One thing wrong means nothing is salvageable

And please, stop with the scary words. "Recommend you sit down and shut up" Goodness, I'd be shaking in my boots if we met in real life. You must be very tough ๐Ÿ™„

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