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[-] jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social 60 points 1 year ago

This election is going to be one of the worst ones and that's saying something.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is what they say every single time. But hey, if we're unlucky or they cheat, which they will.. then it will be the last time they say that.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This election will be interesting when Trump is in prison during the actual election in November

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It's very likely he still won't be locked up by then. Maybe if the DC trial starting in March can get through conviction and sentencing quickly. Or an even longer shot would be if the GA case gets the August date they asked for and can get everything done by November. He probably won't see real consequences until 2025. Just hope he lives long enough for everything to finally catch up to him.

[-] Littleborat@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Why can he even be a candidate when there are criminal charges against him? I don't understand the system there.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The US Constitution doesn't prohibit people from running for office while in prison. On the one hand, it helps to prevent the party in power from jailing their opponents to keep from losing power. On the other hand... Well, this.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Famously, Eugene Debs ran his entire campaign from prison.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Keep in mind that the constitution was written by people who were all considered criminals, so there wouldn't have been much appetite for being hard on "criminals" in the political process.

Also think on the civil rights reform era. Many of the very well respected figures of history were, at the time, convicted criminals under unjust laws.

Of course, it is inconsistent that in many states a felon can run for office, but can not themselves vote. I would say the weird part is that they aren't allowed to vote.

In short, in a sane world, we should not have to rely upon disqualification to judge a candidate for their crimes. Nor should we have to fear the felon vote, even if they want something unreasonable, they should be drowned out by the more reasonable voters. Even as many folks may currently be on the side of "I don't want that asshole to be able to run", there's a slippery slope from that to having candidates you do like get disqualified owing to unjust laws or application of law.

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Trump will not see a day behind bars in his lifetime.

Even if he does get convicted before November of 2024, which itself is not guaranteed, he will almost guaranteed be allowed to remain free while the appeals play out. This is a process that normally can take months or years. Throw Trump being Trump into the mix, and it's very likely the appeals will extend beyond his lifetime.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I used to think it would never happen. Now I think it just probably won't happen.

I'm not willing to bet the farm on him not going to prison anymore though. Shit is stacking against him, and there's almost certainly more criminal charges on the way.

One of his top employees broke down on the stand the other day and mentioned a handful of investigations including a criminal investigation that was not publicly known before then.

Fucker just needs to live long enough, but I don't know that his cardiovascular system has what it takes.

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