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Or it’s because Tesla is like 60% of the market and their quality is absolute shit. https://insideevs.com/news/686440/tesla-60-percent-ev-market-share-new-registrations-2024/
FTA:
"Consumer Reports recommended Tesla’s Model 3 and Model Y for those interested in purchasing an electric car. Steven Elek, who heads the auto data analytics program at Consumer Reports, said Tesla’s components are “generally reliable,” according to the magazine.
However, Elek added that Tesla still struggles with the build quality of its electric cars."
The same Tesla that didn't know why automotive grade parts exist?
Thank you!
That was my thinking. A friend of mine has had a Polestar 2 for about a year now and absolutely loves it. Hasn't had a single problem with it. Like with conventional vehicles, some brands are just shit for quality and others are great.
To play devil’s advocate, I bought a Model 3 in 2017 and have had 0 issues with it also and it has none of the fit-and-finish issues that newer ones have.
Seconded, mine is a 2018 and has had only one problem. Best car I've ever owned.
Kinda hate to say it but… same. The stereo is my favorite part and it’s the best stereo I’ve ever heard in a car. It’s incredible.
What makes the stereo great? Good speakers, a nice interface?
Great speakers that are incredibly well-tuned and balanced with power that gets them right up to the limit without clipping. Granted, these were the premium speakers installed with the first models so I don’t know if they’re still available but they are the best sounding audio system I’ve ever heard in a car.
Same here. No panel gaps or fit and finish issues on mine from Sep 2018. And it's not like there was a lack of reported issues from that time either.
That's not devil's advocate though, that's two exceptions to a rule
Even over in Europe, Tesla ranks at the bottom for build quality and reliability in almost every metric, for ALL types of vehicles
You have to be pretty bad to be as unreliable as a Land Rover Discovery, but they've somehow managed
The Chinese built ones that supply Asia and Australasia are almost faultless as well. My one is an earlier model, US-built, and you can definitely tell the quality difference even with the early models that came from China.
My Chevy Bolt has been solid as a rock, and anything that was “wrong” with it has been fixed under warranty.
CR is the only one placing Tesla that high. Other surveys have placed tesla almost dead last in reliability, with a Which? survey stating that 1/20 teslas have problems failing to start and 2/5ths having major problems otherwise. I literally haven't seen a single other survey besides CR placing Tesla that 'high' (is middle of the pack good now?), and it's pretty apparent it's because they consider anything the respondent tells them as a failure as an actual failure, even if it's just a feature that the person doesn't like. For example, the slow acceleration in Eco mode on the Ioniq 5 (which I absolutely love, and is perfect for luxury driving) was complained about so much that Hyundai was forced to release a TSB to 'fix' it, even though those users could have just used a different mode and gotten the results they desired. That counts as a 'problem' to CR. Clearly that's not what a problem is. A problem is things like the seatbelts not working or the steering wheels falling off
Nope, it’s because of legacy automakers producing shit EVs bringing the average down.
If you’d read the article, teslas were the “middle ground” and the only recommended vehicles.
Their reliability rating hits came from defects like chipped paint, door handles not releasing, and trunks that didn’t close, but their actual drivetrain and batteries were fine.
I would point out that the CR report does not agree with reports from other companies and other countries. Tesla is generally bottom of the barrel. But pointing out something I meant to comment upon the other day, the problems you see coming from these brands all seem to be tied to American automakers, not legacy automakers. In general Korean and Japanese brands have been fine, even German and Swedish brands. But all the american brands? GM? Rivian? Tesla? Ford? Jeep? They're all terrible. They also tried to point out that the HI5 has had battery issues. 1 recall for 1 issue affecting a very small subset of customers is not anything like massive recalls affecting entire fleets like we've seen with GM, Tesla, etc. I have a HI5 and while there are problems, that's normal for brand new vehicles, and they're nowhere near as bad as problems I've had with american made vehicles (including my f150), and about par with the problems we have with our other korean vehicle (a kia sorento).
Yeah bro no worries, if the car brand you’re emotionally attached to doesn’t do well this year just feel free to ignore or justify the results until your feelings have stabilized. That’s what everyone else here is doing based on their hatred for one dude. No judgement here!
Right to repair is also not helping EV market.
That was my assumption. They have issues with batteries dying from heavy rain because they suck at fitting things together properly. Their manufacturing tolerances are way too high.