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But they rejected the label of 'deplorable.'
Hillary's quote:
She wasn't even being 'grossly generalistic' and it's looking like it's more than half. A lot more.
If you include all Republicans and only look at homophobia, it's already at 60%. And those are the ones that will openly attest to it.
Now narrow that down to the most radical of them (Trump supporters) and include racists, sexist, xenophobes, Islamophobes, and include those who might still be closeted bigots.
This circle is made of more circle. Are you sure this is a Venn diagram?
The only issue I have is that Islamophobia is different from the rest in that as far as I can tell, it's simply being against an ideology. Like being anti trumpist. Are we trumpophobic or something? I think we have to be able to criticize chosen ideologies.
The problem I see is not that Islamophobes are against the religion of Islam. They're mostly just against brown people and use "Islam is a religion of hate" as an excuse to justify their racism. Furthermore, most Islamophobes "hate" Islam for the same reasons the love Christianity, they just don't like that brown people have been able to do what they haven't - suppress an entire population through the use of their religion, subjugating and oppressing women, LGBTQ+, other races, and non-believers. It's not that most of them have any actual problems with what hard-right Islam does, they just don't like that those brown (enter slur of choice)s are the ones doing it instead of them.
I think I addressed that pretty well in my comment. But you can remove literally any and all of the additional qualifiers and the point is still valid. A majority of Republicans are openly homophobic. Everything else is just extra.
But also, people do use Islam as a justification to hate people. It's not like being Muslim necessarily means you reinforce terrorism any more than being Christian necessarily reinforces terrorism. But being a Trump support DOES mean that you reinforce his actions.
Oh, I don't think the issue is terrorism. I am just anti-religion in general.
Criticizing Islam or it's followers is not islamophobia. If your critiques of them get you called islamophobic. Then perhaps you should look at your critiques. As they are not likely valid.
A phobia is an irrational unjustified fear of something. But not a valid critique.
Not just fear. It's also an aversion to. I'm queer and I'm sick of having people defend homophobes because they're "not afraid" when they've said something horrible about queer people.
Absolutely fair point.
What is the other half? Completely unbearables?
I reject the label of deplorable… it’s way too kind
All the more reason for them to stop rejecting it and embrace the hate.