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this post was submitted on 01 Dec 2023
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"In 2018, Kim Jong Un and then U.S. President Donald Trump launched high-stakes diplomacy on the future of the North’s advancing nuclear arsenal. But their summit diplomacy fell apart a year later in 2019 due to wrangling over international economic sanctions on North Korea. Kim Jong Un has since focused on expanding and modernizing his nuclear arsenal, a move experts say he thinks would give him greater leverage to win U.S. concessions in future negotiations."
How dumb do they think readers are? (Don't answer that)
One of the very very very few Ws from Trump's presidency was his attempts to restart diplomatic relations with DPRK.
It wasn't ended by "COMPLEX THINGS YOU PLEBS CANT UNDERSTAND" it was ended by internal bad actors. The same war criminals who have lurked for decades (or a century in one case...). The types (not to say they DID this one, but this type of person) like John Bolton, Kissinger (rest in pissinger), Rumsfeld back before he bad actual power (also rot in piss), Stephen Miller, I mean the list goes on and on with all the little disgusting neoliberal, anti-communist, anti-human fuckers.
It's been incredible to see how US mainstream normalize the idea that diplomacy is a form of weakness, and that the west should only have relations with countries that submit to the western order. Meanwhile, any nations that have sovereignty must be dominated and subjugated by force.
This mentality became prevalent in the 90s after the dissolution of USSR because US ended up in a position of being an unopposed global power. The idea that you could negotiate with other countries as equals, to figure out each others interests, and to try to come up with some sort of a compromise that both sides can live with left the stage. At which point the west completely lost any capacity to do actual diplomacy.
Now, the west finds itself in a world with many rising powers that are sovereign and can't be dominated while lacking the tools to actually engage with them. So we see more sanctions and more sabre rattling because that's all the west knows how to do now. But the whole world can now see that the gig is up.
There's been so many fucking "canaries in the coal mines" over the last several decades that at this point... "Deserve" is a word I'd use for whatever might come.
Israel right now is such a perfect fucking microcosm for the US and the world. We're arrogant, entitled, over-extended, and too fattened up on our own bullshit to see that those "animals" are figuring out how to destroy us. Not because they "hate freedom" but because they hate being held under the boot of the US and its allies. If the US had any real leadership, any soul to speak of, it would see the results in Israel of decades of oppression and ruthless treatment and (obviously after forcing an end to that shit by forcing a one state solution) finally start to, in actual good faith, begin relations with Russia, China, nations in Africa, Iran, Venezuela, Brazil, etc. Maybe instead of crying about Chinese loans and Chinese industrial domination, fucking accept it's over, the free ride is done, and it's time to either negotiate a peaceful descent into equality with the world (not as its dominator)... Or, the alternative is, and I can't see any other outcome, the total destruction of the US which probably means the world.
It's this bullshit American exceptionalism mindset that has led to centuries of suffering from indigenous Americans all the way up to modern day Gazans and workers in the third world. The US just can't fucking accept it was wrong about everything, it was founded on dogshit ideals and propped up by slavery and genocide, and it's the same today, just most of it has been exported. I don't understand why non-capitalists can't see there is no "winning. There is no maintaining this empire even if you want to. It will end, and you can glide it to a respectable halt or explode like the fucking Hindenburg.
I think that's about the deepest-cutting argument I can make to liberals and right wingers. It's over. Everyone sees it's over. You can explode and die or you can choose some sort of honorable path by rejecting your ancestors and choosing a more humane path. I think this is starting to sink in with younger generations, but not quickly enough, and those who end up in power even if "young"ish are still operating under the same mindset as the old ones. So, I dunno what's to come in the US or the world. Absolutely nothing fucking good I can say that. When diplomacy with other countries is "bad" then I can promise NOTHING good will be coming. (But maybe)
well put
"We don't negotiate with terrorists" + "Any other sovereign is a terrorist"
I believe the term they use is rogue states.