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Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show. But Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.

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[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

What were they supposed to do with the knowledge Hamas has lots of plans to attack them? Build a wall with a highly advanced defensive systems to try and stop them? Oh, right...

If I told you a year ago that I plan to punch you in the face then is it your fault when I do it?

Hamas loudly say they plan to kill all Jewish people in Israel, when Israel takes measures to prevent that everyone says they're the bad guy - now people are blaming them for not taking enough measures? It makes only one sense, that is if you assume the people saying it don't care about anything beside hating Israel.

[-] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

Uh.. they acquired detailed plans about this attack that they just declared impossible then they received info from veteran intelligence officers that Hamas was actively preparing for the attack they said was impossible. After receiving those warnings, and also the previously disclosed warnings from Egypt, they left the area the plan said was the point of attack completely undefended. There doesn't seem to have been any contingency plan in place to deal with this if this if it turned out to be true. It doesn't seem unfair to say that this was an enormous intelligence and security failure.

[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

They only have limited resources and were using those to defend areas where Hamas were actively attacking. If they'd put all their troops to defend mostly empty desert then the weakspot would have been somewhere else and they'd have targeted their attack at that weakspot instead.

War isn't easy, certainly not against well funded terrorist organisations. I'm sure the IDF knew of hundreds of potential attacks and plans that Hamas wanted to carry out, knowing what they'll actually do and when is an impossible feat - I bet they're weren't many in Hamas itself that had any idea what was going to happen, even Iran who trains and funds them appeared surprised.

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