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[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The state of the country is so bad that the only thing that bring it back is literally two accidental medical interventions. Our political system needs a major overhaul

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 40 points 11 months ago

The state of the country is so bad that...

Fundamentally disagree. If Trump and Biden both died on the same day before the election, it would not change a thing, other than make the next election even more contentious. Project 2025 doesn't go away just because Trump would be gone in that scenario.

Our political system needs a major overhaul

Agreed. It's going to take decades of concerted efforts, because the fascists aren't simply going to give up after a few losses.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago

It's not as if any other Republican candidate won't be a frothing fascist. We've got fucking DeSantis heeling in the wings.

And there aren't any other Democrats with enough name recognition to put forward a good game at this point. Maybe if Biden had announced he wouldn't seek a 2nd term in 2020 we'd have someone. But a sudden double-death before the general election is going to be MUCH more likely to favor a Republican.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Gavin Newsom is salivating for it, he'll be the go-to guy in '28, but someone will have to tell Harris nobody likes her.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

He even vetoed all those bills to appeal to party leadership.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I’d argue AOC has the name recognition, but she’d be way too polarizing to ever get her past the establishment.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Very mixed feelings. I love having her around but the president shouldn't be a "super duper senator". I disagree with AOC on a ton but wish there were 6-28 more of her.

But the best executive shouldn't have an agenda. The ideal executive turns around and says "you vote these folks in every two years, don't yell at ms"

That's obviously not the world we live in, but it's where we need to go.

And to that... There's no equivlancy here... You can vote for or against fascism next year in the US. It should be different, but that's a hypothetical. Just imagine going to an occupy Wallstreet protestor, and explaining they'd be begging for Romney. There is no choice.

[-] thantik@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

The problem is that if we keep "Middle-of-the-road"ing our candidates, the overton window just keeps moving to the right.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That's why you put effort into the primary, Sanders's campaign shifted the entire party leftward

[-] ares35@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

the alternative now, though, is the very real prospect of plunging deep(er) into the far-right. recovery from which would take decades.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I also think parties need to put forward people with executive experience, such as Governors and Mayors. Senators have only tangential experience

[-] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago

ATM that would leave a Christian Nationalist as the president. What a wonderful system we have...

[-] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure referencing Trump and Biden having issues not Biden and Harris.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Gotta get the money out and require someone to be who they say they are to share content on the Internet.

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