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[-] IsThisLoss@hexbear.net 58 points 11 months ago

The ~~2004 2008 2012 2016 2020 2024~~ election is the most important election of our lives. Democracy is at stake and we need to hold our noses and vote for the lesser evil.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If [current challenger or incumbent] gets elected you'll never vote again.

[-] WolfLink@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Isn’t it a bit different when one candidate/party has outright said they plan to take steps to end democracy, and has previously participated in an attempted coup?

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

I don't think either of those things is unprecedented.

[-] MikuNPC@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Pretending like our elections are currently normal as usual is absurd, we literally had a coup attempt for the 2020 election.

Yes, the 2024 election has democracy on the ballot and it isn't even a controversial statement to say so.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How many more of these stinking, double-downer sideshows will we have to go through before we can get ourselves straight enough to put together some kind of national election that will give me and the at least 20 million people I tend to agree with a chance to vote FOR something, instead of always being faced with that old familiar choice between the lesser of two evils?

-Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72

[-] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago
[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Arendt is one to fucking talk since she supported segregation in America

[-] Bakzik@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

And she fucked with a literal Nazi, Heidegger.

Screw her.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

I guess she embodies her own quote quite well

[-] Bakzik@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago
[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

not a single election in U.S. history has EVER had "democracy on the ballot." We don't have a fucking democracy. When's the last time anyone has picked a candidate? Year after year, everyone I talk to irl and online despises both candidates. Try to tell someone making minimum wage to go wait in line at the polls to vote, missing those work hours would be literally detrimental. Even if all of those things were disregarded, the popular vote has been fucking ignored in several elections for a convoluted system that was founded by fucking slave owners. even if donald shart "removed democracy" what would change? because Trump's policy is slightly worse than joe brandons? both of them will uphold the status quo, fund the zionist settler colony, lock up latinx immigrants in concentration camps, build a border wall, prolong the proxy war, expand the military industrial complex, continue a fierce grip on the imperial periphery, i could fucking go on. the dems had a presidency and a majority in Congress when roe was overturned and what did they do to try and stop it? NOTHING. no matter who wins, democracy will never be at stake because THERE IS NO DEMOCRACY. so try and tell me democracy is on the ballot again. fucking do it.

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

even if donald shart "removed democracy" what would change?

Nothing really, the real reason why most liberals hate Trump is because he doesn't hide the fact that the USA is not a real democracy and is a fascistic state. Usually the democrats try to hide it better than the republicans, so their voters can sleep well without thinking about all the people the US kills outside and inside their country.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago
[-] MikuNPC@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Not sure why the lol, I totally agree with this. US democracy has flaws that should be addressed, big ones being gerrymandering, electoral college (which will eventually go away due to NPVIC), and our judicial system.

Recent events have highlighted on a national stage weaknesses that must be fixed. Let's get to work instead of throwing in the towel and allowing fascism to rise.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Oh jeez it's almost like the fuckers who want to end democracy don't go away after losing at democracy one time.

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