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Muslim Americans in swing states launch anti-Biden campaign
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If voters still support Biden after condoning genocide they deserve to lose. Rewarding the party with continued power after their recent actions enables them to do it again and again with each time getting progressively worse. This is the brain rot from accepting 'lesser evil' that's grown so large that ethnic cleansing is now acceptable
What a hot take. The only brain rot here is yours. Nobody with any sense of nuance is saying "it's acceptable." You can hate what's going on in Israel without also letting the fascists take over. Choosing the lesser evil means the greater evil doesn't win. Also, what do you suppose the fascists will do?
You are presuming there's a viable third option in this scenario. If you can't mobilize voters to vote for a third option en masse, there's effectively only two options. I'll take the one that won't also take my human rights away.
The fascists have already taken over, and democrats helped enable it. But taking away the human rights and the right to live overseas is ok?
Prove it. Start by defining "fascist." Then, demonstrate how the US has become a fascist state.
No. But if it's a choice to keep my human rights and take away someone else's versus take away both mine and theirs, I'll take the former. Life isn't always fair, and sometimes you have to make shit choices.
More importantly however, your scenario again presumes Biden is the cause of the loss of those human rights, that if we didn't do a thing, Israel wouldn't be bombing Palestine in retaliation anyway. Yet, who was it that secured a temporary ceasefire to get humanitarian aid in, release hostages, and let civilians escape?
If your entire argument boils down to, "I'm going to turn my nose up at Biden to feel ideologically superior," you are about as politically savvy as single-issue conservatives.
That's ironic coming from people whos single issue is keeping the red fascists out of office so their blue ones can stay in.
And you still haven't defined what a fascist is or how they've taken over the country. Words have meaning, and if you can't do those two things, your arguments are meaningless.
I learned a long time ago I could list bullet points of proof and shitlibs would still cry 'but Trump.' Fascism can never gain a foothold without a complicit liberal party supporting them
A.k.a: "I'm bullshitting, and I'm hoping desperately you don't call my bluff."
List them or admit you are unjustifiably spouting nonsense. A claim is not evidence.
Debating someone with a cult hive mind mentality is futile.
You don't have a plan. You don't have a list. You can't define "fascist." Why should anyone take you seriously?
"I want to argue semantics now."
I notice you didn't either. Know why? Because you won't. You know that if you used a definition people accepted, Biden doesn't fit it, so you can't keep using that as some kind of rhetorical club to feel superior.
GOP has openly called for actual genocide
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-calls-for-all-palestinians-to-die-in-viral-video/ar-AA1jHM13
Republicans and Democrats have always been on the same side regarding war. And most other things.
A single republican out of a red state calling for killings is far different than the leader of a party, and the one that can stop it, allowing it
What makes you think that Biden could stop support to Israel?
Obama couldn't close down Guantanamo and the stakes were a lot lower.
Biden could demand Israel stop, like Reagan did in 1983.
Reagan had Tip O'Neil in the Congress and Biden has Mike Johnson.
Reagan made a direct call to Begin and demanded a ceasefire on Lebanon or else Israel loses all access to weapons and aircraft. He didn't need Tip O'Neil.
Trump's Evangelicals would happily nuke the whole Middle East if they thought it would bring the Rapture.
That's besides rolling voting rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and human rights in general.
I agree with Biden 51% of the time. I disagree with Trump 100% of the time.
In fairness, Obama only ran on closing Gitmo. He gave up on the first setback.
Oh, cool. Well at least we kept trying and eventually closed Gitmo.
And the Republicans would surely be purely on the side of Muslims...hmm...
You do know that's the alternative, right?
Because a ban is so much worse than murder... Jesus fucking Christ
LMAO, this guy seriously thinks it will just be a ban...
Palestinians deaths are in the hands of everyone allowing their murder to happen. Which includes Dem voters
What a silly reduction.
If you support someone that condones murder, you are complicit in their action
If YoU sUpPoRt SoMeOnE tHaT cOnDoNeS mUrDeR, yOu ArE cOmPlIcIt In ThEiR aCtIoNs.