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[-] Omniraptor@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What the fuck. Don't get me wrong the Russian empire was awful about LGBT (no surprises there) until lenin came along and decriminalized it (but iirc there wasn't much if any proactive/institutional work to secure rights, it just wasn't a priority and I can't really blame them). Then came stalin and specifically fucked it up (many such cases).

and legislatively everything kept being fucked (despite the best efforts of civil society) right up to the fall of the Soviet Union. Even after the fall, we only decriminalized it to appease the capitalists when we joined the council of Europe in 1993.

So yeah in terms of rights, capitalism/the 90s was the best thing that happened to the Russian LGBT community in recent history. And even then there it wasn't applied retroactively, people who were previously sentenced stayed imprisoned. However culturally there was definitely a shift in perception. The peak was probably sending a couple (not really) lesbians to perform in Eurovision 2003 (to date iirc they're still the most popular Russian band among foreigners).

And going into the 2000s the government grew more and more allergic of civil society / activism of literally any kind including LGBT rights. That's when the whole 'foreign agent' thing started too. Until they just outlawed activism/'propaganda' in 2013. The only saving grace is the shitty patchwork enforcement. But if the government does decide to get on your case, you're fucked. Culturally however I don't think young people who use the internet are much more homophobic than on average in eastern europe (lol). The state sponsored TV watching boomers (who hold power in the government) are another story tho, it's as bad as fox news watchers in the west.

The peak was probably sending a couple (not really) lesbians to perform in Eurovision 2003 (to date iirc they're still the most popular Russian band among foreigners).

Was this t.A.T.u.? Because if you have any other musical groups that consist of a couple (not really) lesbians, I’m all ears.

[-] Omniraptor@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

yeah, they were a pretty unique phenomenon lol

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