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this post was submitted on 03 Dec 2023
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Blame bots. The other day we had a post about how 70% of account creation processes on sites are started by bots. Imagine that if you didn’t even need confirmation.
What if account creation was local (e.g. Git and keys)?
If no data needs to be stored then no account is needed. Use the system where there is a unique indentifier based on the password.
Never heard of this, how does that work?
A tripcode "is the hashed result of a password that allows one's identity to be recognized without storing any data about users. Entering a particular password will let one "sign" one's posts with the tripcode generated from that password. Trying to take another user's tripcode and compute their password from it (for instance, to make posts that appear to come from a particular person) is somewhat computationally difficult."
That's pretty cool, but still, does that really solve the bot problem? Doesn't it make it easier for them to spam?
Tripcodes doesn't affect bots spamming at all.
No longer needing accounts removes whatever barrier to entry email, phone or credit card is worth. On the plus side less people are being farmed for data, so society is better off 😕
What I mean is, doesn’t that barrier being removed make things easier for bots as well? And while humans only save a bit of time once to register, bot farms would improve a lot considering they do it over and over again.
Less data farming is undeniably better, but imo if something helps bringing us further from the Dead Internet outcome I can accept it. Of course, just the bare necessities, sites that require you mail + phone + name and so on when they don’t need them to function should really dial it down.
Perhaps requiring government ID would prevent even more bots.. but stopping bots is not my priority. When reading YouTube comments I see obvious comments from bots making generic comments or asking people to click links, but I also see many comments that make me wonder if they are being sincere or this is ML generated. Unless you're going to ask for more and more personal data then only the side creating bots will advance in fooling those requirement. Barriers to entry do not appear to be a valid long-term strategy.
Yeah, requiring government IDs would basically solve the bot problem, but would make the internet a privacy hell, especially for nations like China which already struggle with it.
We need a middle ground, but it’s becoming increasingly harder to find one as you said.