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‘Near-total internet blackout’ as Israel attacks Gaza’s south
(www.aljazeera.com)
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They can ping off Egyptian towers.
Who can?
Gazaian
not through jammers hey can't
Have you fantasized all your life or is it a more recent thing.
Do you think that Israel doesn't have technology from the 70s? high gain directional antenna and a noise generator aren't new high-tech super-technology.
the only reason we see distributed EW instead of massive stations is that a more advanced army could field weapons that could threaten these things.
here's a link to the Wikipedia article for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_jamming
I deploy radio networks and have worked in the middle east.
I am not going to explain to you why that is a worthless, bad and stupid idea.
I will however tell you that the Israelis know what is coming off those towers and are gathering intelligence. It's better that they are active than not. Gaza's network, however, has failed.
wait, so your argument is... that the IDF wants to spy on Hamas? AFTER the argument was that people in Gaza would ping the cel-towers in Egypt because Israel is blocking the service from their side. after it has been clearly stated that Gaza has no local network outside a bunch of people with short range radios.
you want a reason why the IDF would try and block transmissions? because every picture that get's out of the children they blow up is harming their reputation and souring the world on their little genocide (and yes, what they are doing is defined as genocide), an analysis that correlates with the IDF targeting not just the few physical telephony connections, but also journalists not embedded with the IDF
I want to avoid having a technical discussion with someone who doesn't understand how things work.
For instance. Someone asked how Gazians can use the internet with a network failure. They can ping Egyptian towers is something simple that everyone would understand.
When you lose power on a network you have basicly two elements that die independently....nevermind you aren't interested in doing anything but bs preaching. You don't really want care and I'm not interested in spending time in explaining it to you
so, you say "ping" like a ping isn't just the most simple call and answer request in existance.
then again, the only thing you could have had to do with networks is as a technician, seeing as you literally gave some gibberish and are misusing technical terms. to lose connection over a network (you don't fucking "lose power" on a network, something someone with a cursory understanding of signal engineering should know), now to disrupt a network you don't have "two independent elements that die" you have an inability for signals from A to reach B, in fact both A and B can still be very much active, yet the network be down.
now fundamentally all information needs to propagate through some form of medium, in a wired connection that is either electrons or photons over some conductor, now this is comparably stable and easy to shield from noise yet very vulnerable to physical attacks (Israel destroyed basically all the cabled network hubs in Gaza on day 3, so that was physically destroyed a long time ago).
now the other Popular medium is radio waves, aka electromagnetic radiation, this is your cellphone, Wi-Fi, walkie-talkies, radios, etc... this is literally the electromagnetic equivalent of shouting really loud (yes literally propagation of waves through a medium), now imagine someone else has a fucking air raid siren they just have running all day long, within shouting distance to you, and now try to talk to someone.