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Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’
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Here's Biden stacked up against presidents of the last half century for approval/disapproval. Him and Trump are historically unpopular candidates.
Ok but that's his approval rating as being the current president. That doesn't automatically translate to him losing. For example if I was asked that question I would say I don't approve of him but given the choice between him and trump I'm picking him. You are using the answer for one question to assume the answer for another.
Here's Biden vs Trump as well as other potential candidates in swing states to supplement that. He's losing by up to 8 points in 5/6 swing states as of this Nov 5th poll, that's also trending in the wrong direction.
And correct this isn't something where you can say "the poll says this so therefore it's determined to happen" because we can't know the future. That's why we have to take all these factors and see how similar situations turned out before and all that, never assuming absolute certainty.
Not according to the data you've provided, especially if you take an ounce of history into consideration.
He's about even with most presidents who didn't face major wars, slightly less popular than presidents who were in office during major wars, and low compared to...JFK.
The most popular president of all time.
Shhhhhhocker.
And again, these are polls in a time of unprecedented media bias and corporate influence, so even though they argue against your point and make out that the sky is not actually falling, they are largely irrelevant.
I'm not sure that with you missing it the first time, repeating the relevant data you missed last time will help, but let's roll the cube-digits:
"He's about even with most presidents who didn't face major wars, slightly less popular than presidents who were in office during major wars, and low compared to...JFK.
The most popular president of all time.
Shhhhhhocker.
And again, these are polls in a time of unprecedented media bias and corporate influence, so even though they argue against your point and make out that the sky is not actually falling, they are largely irrelevant."
These polls, with a candidate in a two-party system being a few points lower than the other presidents but within the same range as Obama and Clinton, incredibly popular presidents despite their "numbers" who were elected to a second term, are statistically, contextually and historically irrelevant to "inevitability".
Biden could lose(that is how voting works), but implying that it's a lock for Trump because Biden is only as popular as Obama is ludicrous.
Mind the historical context and the statistical irrelevance of your datasets.
You edited your comment but somehow ended up replying to your own comment. Thought you should know.
Show me data that tells otherwise then as I have done. Biden peaked at 55%, Trump didn't even exceed 50%, and both have been about the same approval/disapproval long term. Past presidents have tanked harder but none have consistently had this low approval and high disapproval ratings.