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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago
[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"new conservatives," an older conservative movement in line with reagans bullshit. Lower taxes, american foreign policy can do no wrong, make puppy eyes at the troops while you fuck them over, bust any union you can, keep people desperate, gut services to lower taxes more, etc. The Bush's were neocons, as are Romney and Bob dole.

They have been usurped by the alt right in the current party. "Burn it down fuck you facist populists that want women pregnant and beaten, and want to shoot anyone in the street who they dont like. Keep taxes low because idk, you let me kills the gays and minorities again so do what you want with taxes" party. The Trump party.

This is an alt right shithead calling a neocon shithead a shithead.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I’m pretty sure all conservatives want their 12 year old wiveS pregnant and in the kitchen

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Any Con that isn't drinking the MAGA koolaid in modern parlance. "Neocons" care about foreign policy and actually have principles, warped and weak as they may be, other than "I agree 100% with whatever Trump said this week".

Neocons are the Republicans tapdancing because Russia is being humiliated in Ukraine, while MAGAts are ready to give authoritarian countries free reign because they also loathe gay people.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I looked up the definition, and it actually sounds like batshit nationalism.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Hahaha - they do not have principles, as has been proven over and over by their inability to hold criminals to account in their own party.

They use words that would otherwise indicate such, yes, but it's absolute utter bullshit. They DO NOT CARE about the law, or governance in any way, shape, or form that does not serve them personally. That's not having principles, that's a flaming hypocritical bag of shit.

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Ah, you seem to have fallen under the false belief that "having principles = having good principles that I agree with". Neocons are not just mindlessly going around doing evil. They are evil in measured, predictable, logically consistent ways, with actionable goals.

[-] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Lawful evil, if you will.

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I only know some about them but the main thing is that they support a STRONG military form of foreign policy to support “democracy”, stuff like George Bush on invading Afghanistan and Iraq. They support NATO and defending US interests cross the seas.

They’re basically the tankies of conservatism, with wanting to have tanks solve everything and denying their failures, but they kinda died out like a decade ago.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Found the gen z. I can't believe it took less than 20 years to forget/ not know.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Millennial. And, I’ve never heard of neocon because it’s not used anymore since they’re all that now. So it’s just CONS

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

It speaks to how bad a disaster that ideology was that the generation born when it took control have never heard of it by the time they've become adults.

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