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[-] J3K@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Eating meat and dairy is not sustainable in terms of resources and greenhouse gases, and non-vegan environmentalists are clowns on the level of people flying private jets to climate conferences.

[-] ThugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I mostly agree with you, with the caveat that industrial meat and dairy is not sustainable. Communal farms could be.

I saw it somewhere, and now I use it all the time. If you need an example of why capitalism is destined to fail, just look at the cheese caves. We have to bury cheese like nuclear waste just to be able to keep its market value up to a level that makes it worth producing.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This so much this. A mostly vegetarian lifestyle with the occasional meat IS sustainable. People forget that before industrialization, we ate meat like once every one or two weeks. You could count the number of times we ate meat in a month on one han

[-] aroom@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

this argument that non industrial cattle is sustainable is totally moot. please check the literature available.

[-] ThugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I apologize, but I'm struggling to catch your meaning.

[-] aroom@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

it's not because a product is not made in a industrial fashion that it's de facto good, sustainable or eco friendly. it's like calling natural stuff better than chemical stuff. it's just a common bias.

you can't get meat without giving a lot of proteins to an animal. at the end if you end up eating this protein instead of giving it to the animal to grow tissue you always will win in efficiency.

some will argue that we can't eat grass. that's right we can't. but with all things considered if we eat proteins from plants we can digest, the balance will always be positive, regarding CO2 emissions, natural ressources being wasted like soil and water, and naturally the cruelty.

some will argue that prairies are stocking CO2. yes they are, but the cattle growing on them will produce more.

some will argue that eating soy will give you boobs. I'm sorry but it won't. too bad if it's boobs you were looking for.

etc etc. the scientific literature is quite explicit on this matter. all that I know is that if we decided to switch to a total plant based alimentation right now, we would need a period of transition were cattle or fishing will still be needed in some specific countries with specific ecosystem.

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