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"I'm a Texan. I love Texas. I'm raising my children here. I was raised here. I've built my academic career, my professional career here. You know, I plan to stay. And so I want to be able to get access to the medical care that I need, and my daughter to have it as well," Cox said.
Yeah I don't think you are learning anything out of this. Stay in a state that does not care about you. Like a physical abusive relationship.
I don't really agree with the abusive relationship analogy. Things only change if there are people there who want it to change. While I understand and sympathise with the desire to leave, I have the utmost respect for those who choose to stay and try to make/ be the change needed.
A lot of people have stayed in abusive relationships for that reason: "They can change! I can change them." Meanwhile the state is rapidly moving backwards. This is like being dragged behind the abuser's truck and not wanting to cut the rope.
A lot of people stay in abusive relationships because they don't have a realistic opportunity to leave. A lot of people in abusive states like Texas stay because they don't have a realistic opportunity to leave.
And both parties suffer the consequences accordingly.
Yes, that would be the part that doesn't work. Ideologies do not remained contained, they spread. And countries and states regularly change, all the time.
You are totally right.
These people would have shit on Rosa Parks, too.
The only solution in an abusive relationship is to leave.
Which is why I don't agree with the analogy. Because that is not the solution when it comes to political ideologies.
History is full of terrible ideologies. Things like women's right to vote, and segregation. If people who disagreed and who had the means to leave all did, these likely would still be laws in the US.
If Ohio voters left Ohio when it went red, they wouldn't have abortion access or weed right now.
Ohio isn't texas, though.
Texas is beyond help and texans need to realize that.
What makes you say that? Texas is narrowly red, and the rural vote is aging out, while the urban vote is growing. This has been pulling to the left and relatively quickly. If everyone they oppress packs up and leaves then the right wins.
Not really. You can also have the abuser locked up and stay in your home.
But enough taxpayers leaving can have a real effect. Enough people leave, the government notices and has to ask 'why?'
Enough people leave an the rest will strengthen their majority. No politician is going to care unless it costs them power.
This was my initial reaction as well, but now I'm not so sure. Somebody has to be the public example, and fight this broken system. This has gotten a large amount of national media exposure, and that is ultimately what mobilizes voters. She also seems willing to suffer for her convictions, which is more than most people can say.
I saw someone mention Rosa Parks, and it's the perfect example. Injustice must be fought where it is by individuals who are brave enough to put themselves in harm's way for it. I have no disdain for people who put themselves and their families ahead of a cause. I'm the same way. But the very least we can do is offer our unconditional support to these heroes.
Meh, I don't think any of this matters. The right in US is winning BIGLY and none of those examples, media exposure or voter mobilization really matters. The right in 4 years of Trump managed to ban abortion and take control of the supreme court for the next, what?, 20 years? 30? Meanwhile, Biden and Democrats just sit there doing nothing. US need urgent reforms of education, healthcare, policing, gun laws, judiciary, political parties financing and many more a none of this will happen. The only things that's actually changing is that the government gets weaker and corporations get stronger. The only thing this type of activism can achieve is taking half step back while each Republican term the entire country takes 10 big steps forward in the direction of dictatorship. Looking from outside I'm amazed at how bad thing are in US and how little people realize this.
Maybe the fact that you're looking in "from the outside" explains why you're operating under the misconception that Democrats ever had unchecked power to do any of those things.
Like during Obama's two first years? Forgot about that? Yes, it was some time ago but all the problems were already there and Democrats chose to pussy foot around looking for weak, bi-partisan deals instead of addressing them. That they did very little even when they had full control was exactly why people didn't go out to vote for Hilary. It's not that Democrats can't do anything because they don't have full control. They don't have full control exactly because they don't do anything.
When they had a filibuster-proof majority for....checks notes...4 months. And they spent those 4 months...checks notes...trying to completely overhaul the entire US healthcare system. That is, instead of doing the half-dozen things you mentioned which would have taken literal years of work to push through.
Fuck off with that revisionist, fantasy-land bullshit. You want Democrats to be full-on fucking dictators who can do whatever they "choose" to do, whenever they "choose" to do it, and they're not, so when they don't "choose" to do the shit you personally want, your lizard brain has convinced you they didn't do it because they "chose" not to. No amount of infantile teeth gnashing changes the way the actual world works, where checks and balances exist. That is, despite whatever the fuck is happening in your imagination.
Wherever the hell you come from, stay the fuck in your lane.
You sound angry. Why are you angry? Drink less coffee or something.
Willful ignorance tends to have that effect on the people around you.
Read more books or something.
No, not really, Most people can simply talk about their different opinions. You act like a child.
Most people can simply admit they've realized they're full of shit. You act like the tone police.
Grow the fuck up.
Tone police? I simply don't see the point of discussing politics with childish people. I'm simply calm. You're unable to express anything without profanities and insults. But yeah, I will do the grown up thing and simply block you.
If that's how you respond when you realize you're wrong, then go right ahead. I'm sure it's nice and warm in your bubble.
While I get the sentiment, remember this is part of Republican’s grand plan. If they can make things so bad that liberals largely all concentrate in the likes of CA, NY, MA, IL, OR, WA, CT, RI, and VT, they can guarantee themselves permanent control of the Senate and a massive leg up on the presidency. They get to effectively gerrymander America.
They have already done this in the likes of Ohio and Florida. These former swing states are now solidly Red.
Republicans are worried about Texas, though. Republicans cannot take the White House without Texas. But an influx of people and changing demographics are pushing Texas toward purple territory. So they are doing everything to make the state hostile to liberals.
She is also trying to rally Texans to her side, and if she started saying “this state sucks” she would win less sympathy.
Most of the people who are being harmed cannot leave. They are too poor to do so.
But many are not. Many live in this shit-stain of a state and instead of voting with their feet, stay and complain.
You are just blaming poor people for being poor. That's who doesn't vote. Until people have their material needs meet you can fuck right off with your blame bullshit.
It wasn't too long ago that Texas actually had a Democrat governor, and California a Republican governor.
Wasn't Arnold Republican? IIRC he did a pretty reasonable job.