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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by FarLine99@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

How do notifications work in the official Telegram Android app (Play Store vs Site version maybe)? Does it have the same mechanism as Signal, which only recognizes the presence of notifications via Google services, but sends them via its web socket service?

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[-] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago

Telegram uses Google services like Signal for notifications - https://telegra.ph/Notifications-FIX its the first point under the Android section

https://core.telegram.org/api/push-updates these are the docs for building your own Telegram app, specifically the push notifications section and again it mentions using APNS for iOS or FCM for Android but they also offer Simple push which would work with Unifiedpush and would be one way to bypass FCM but I don't know if they offer that in their official app or if there are any other Telegram apps that have implemented it

[-] FarLine99@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Signal only uses FCM to wake up the Android app if there are new messages waiting on the Signal server and the app isn't connected to it. Signal does not include any information in these notifications, encrypted or otherwise, so Google can only infer that your device has something queued on Signal's servers." I was wondering if a similar system has been implemented in telegram?

[-] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

It's still metadata, ditch google play services all at once

[-] FarLine99@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Too radical a solution for me, I used microG for a long time, but the notification problems made me go back to Google services. i've banned them from accessing camera/microphone/geolocation via App Ops (put them on ignore mode), so I'm pretty calm. but notifications are still a problem).

[-] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

They are priv apps, I believe it's the same as root

Most of the privacy apps don't require you to have gapps and their notifications

[-] FarLine99@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

No, they don't have the same privileges as root permissions. this is easily demonstrated by the camera app built into LineageOS when you enable ignore mode for camera in App Ops and it crashes. and google services also start making very untypical requests for access to stuff.

Yes, but there aren't many apps that respect privacy on my phone compared to the usual ones).

[-] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Ok, I didn't know, it's just usually I see some notifications like "priv app is the same as root, be careful". Thank you

About the apps, I recommend switching, it's not as scary as I sounds, most of the apps have an alternative or sth like that

[-] FarLine99@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

The Telegram client available on F-droid does not use FCM for push notifications.

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