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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 74 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

ITT: "I like trains but this is bad because I can't admit that Biden is capable of doing anything good."

Cynicism is what's killing America. Faster than any politics. Look in the mirror and grow the fuck up.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

I don't agree with him often, but damn we should have put in a rail system decades ago.

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

The best time was decades ago, the second best time is now!

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Can't disagree with that!

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I would bet actual cash money we will not see any high speed train outside of California in the next 10 years.

I was high on copium for a decade that Obama was gonna give me fiber internet and it never happened.

This isn't cynicism, this is just a giant novelty size pork barrel filled with rotting lard like the last several nationwide infrastructure projects were.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Well, you probably already lost that bet, because the LA->Vegas train is likely to be done before 2033 (even with some setbacks in the schedule). In fact, it'll probably be done before LA->San Fransisco. It follows an existing highway route, so there isn't much fight over land use. Most of the things that bog down these projects already seem to be cleared for it. Also helps that there isn't a lot in between LA and Vegas; you don't have every town over 10k people demanding they get a stop.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ok you got me there. I forgot Nevada is part of this, and they're aiming for 2028 for the next Olympics.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 10 months ago

Well, he tried, but it turns out it's more profitable to just steal the money and hire some lawyers with part of it.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

this is just a giant novelty size pork barrel filled with rotting lard

That took my imagination for a high speed ride.

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Seriously. I went lower to look and it's wild. So many people try to sound calm and unbiased but they're all just complaining that it's fake and nothing good will happen.

[-] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

What about the the last decade (60 years really) has given you hope about our political system? Shit keeps getting worse for people on the bottom and better for the 1%.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

For me, Acela.

Previously even in the highest population corner of the country, big cities that already have significant train systems, somehow we couldn’t get reasonably from one to the other.

Since it opened, I choose Acela over flying from Boston to NYC every time, and over Driving every time I’m going into the city (still might drive suburb to suburb). Acela runs reliably, not slower than driving/flying, and it’s easier/more comfortable. It works. We can build a working train system!

[-] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Problem is when you get outside of the Boston through DC corridor, population drops off a cliff. It starts to get too spread out.

But I'd settle for spreading two forks out toward Pittsburg and Richmond. Then keep getting the forks out further toward Chicago and Atlanta, with the big/growing cities along the way.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Most of the reasonable high speed rail proposals I’ve seen are to start in higher population areas where they make sense, build up feeders, extend as passenger traffic rises and eventually connect in places. Focusing on ideas like a new trans-continental railroad may be inspiring but just not practical. Who would ride where there are no cities or where flying or driving is faster and easier?

But the northeast proves it can work, and many of the allocations in this announcement are to upgrade standard rail to support more traffic as feeders, and I believe some could eventually lead to extensions southward

The usual regional centers proposed include:

  • northwest- Vancouver, Seattle, Portland
  • California- la to sf (being built)
  • Houston, Dallas, Austin (I’m not convinced we’d get them out of their cars)
  • Florida- brightline
  • Midwest- connect rust belt cities centered on Chicago
[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Its also just like every time I see an american flag I'm like "oh this person hates americans".

[-] gun@lemmy.ml -5 points 10 months ago

Cynicism

Because it's the people's fault and a little attitude adjustment will fix everything

[-] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

It sure will if not fix, at least improve your overall mood, and consequently your life

this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2023
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