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People in New York City once again took to the streets to demand a permanent ceasefire in Israel’s war on Gaza and an end US aid to Israel. Protesters marched from Foley Square to NYC City Hall, Wall Street, and Washington Square Park to raise their demands. The protest took place as the United Nations Security Council was voting on a ceasefire resolution, which was vetoed by the United States.

The protest was called for by the Shut It Down for Palestine Coalition, composed of several organizations including the International Peoples’ Assembly, the Palestinian Youth Movement, the ANSWER Coalition, and National Students for Justice in Palestine, and dozens of other local New York City organizations.

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[-] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

You'd think so, but then the same logic should apply to Ukraine right?

[-] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

AIPAC owns American politicians. Ukraine doesn’t

[-] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah, fair point... And don't forget the russian assets in the GOP.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Russia owns Republicans

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Both can be true. We can have a just war that prints money for bad people.

The war in Israel, however, is a bad war printing money for bad people.

Frankly, I don't really understand how a privatized military industrial complex is not a blow to national security. You'd think we'd want more cost-effective munitions.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago
[-] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

It was just a comment on the fact that GOP voted down the new care package for Ukraine. If it prints money for them and their buddies they should be for it right? So what could possibly be the reason they vote it down...? coughrussian assetscough

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

They're being pragmatic, they actually want to get paid, and they don't want the US to have to pay for all of these weapons and other material. Not everyone you disagree with is a Russian asset, no matter how hard that narrative is pushed.

All of the "aid" the US has sent to Ukraine has been on credit, a 21st Century lend-lease. The original 20th century lend-lease was a roaring success in terms of subjugating the British empire, and it's also worth noting that a lot of US representatives of that era were very hesitant to approve the "care packages" in the first place as well. The debt Britain owes the US from WWII has actually never been repaid, but the US got global hegemony out of the deal so they agreed to look the other way.

Ukraine however has no ability to pay off the debt they have already racked up, let alone more. Not just because they've lost militarily but also because anything remotely productive in the country (primary farmland and factories) has been parceled off to the highest (US based) bidder, destroyed via the war, or can't be productive in the foreseeable due to the loss of working people to emigration and war.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

Didn't the CIA say Ukraine blew up Russia's Nordstream pipeline (which carries Russian oil to Europe)?

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Don't get the downvoted, I'm not sure about the CIA but the telegraph has stated the same from their own investigation

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah the cia are the ones who said their info points to a Ukraine operation. Ukraine denies it but again, according to the cia report, some state actor did it.

I'm not worried about downvotes. :) as far as i know it's not like reddit where comments get hidden so meh, and With all the disinfo out there sometimes people get a little reactionary. Its nbd

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