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Mathematically they're equivalent, but the feelings could not be further apart.
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Jesus lotta "motorcycles are a deathtrap" in here.
Hi, I've been riding for 10 years on all different kinds of machines through many lengths of commute/fun. allow me to be abrupt motorcycles cost more than a Prius to own. The tires don't last as long, the maintenance is more frequent, obviously the gear you absolutely should be wearing is expensive but hey if none of that bothers you please continue to enjoy riding.
It's not very active but there's a motorcycle community here on lemmy, please join us ;)
Something about the phrase "living to the fullest" doesn't allude to sensible motorcycle safety precautions.
There is an entire sub culture of motorcyclists that agree, I do not however condone riding without appropriate gear.
I agree with that as well. I ride a cruiser and I wear a full face helmet, jacket, boots or shoes covering the ankles, and at least thick denim pants. Sometimes I think about getting a 3/4 helmet but I don't think I could bring myself to do it.
When I was real hardcore riding everyday I wore waterproof jacket, pants, and boots. Now I just don't ride in the rain at all if I can help it.
As one on an extended hiatus due to getting hit by an SUV and high-siding, I recommend only using a full face or highly rated modular with a good lock. I have a face because of my HJC modular and am not confident in anything without a chinbar.
I've often wondered why people gravitate so much to quarter and even half helmets for this reason. They do protect your head better than nothing but also expose your face (in the case of a quarter helmet) to the ground.
I suspect that, for some, it is the misconcption that the visor limits field of view in a meaningful way. Might have been the case 40-50 years ago but seems a rarity with modern helmets.
Back on that site that sounded like read it I asked some of these people and it just boiled down to "because I can/freedumb".
Ah yeah. I forget about that set of bikers often as I only associated with the ADV folks who are all about ATGATT. Really weird to me to think that people actually want to be PPE luddites and miss the chance to wear a modern suit of armor, without being out of place or violating the laws of some municipalities.
Yeah I never understood it myself. I once had a run in with one of those "hard ass types" while on a little virago 250 and they proceeded to lecture me on the ways of the roads...which was entirely just giving them right of way always no matter what. He was annoyed at me for passing him on a 250...in traffic.
ATGATT.
It is really strange seeing that rhetoric here too especially with the “fuck cars” group. A lot of countries other than the US have way more riders and less of the squid culture going on because its more of just the norm over there. Also to compliment your picture heres one of me camping with the bike:
Is that a Tracer 900? I've only seen people putting around on those I love your setup.
Yes! Its not really an offroad bike by any means but it can take the occasional gravel road to the campsite as well as any bike. The panniers are a god send The CP3 engine is wonderful on the road and betrays the “grandpa bike” stature. It wasn't my first choice as I was looking to get a Ninja 1000sx or GSXS 1000 GT but im really glad I landed on this.
I actually met someone with a ninja 1000sx and they love that thing. For a while I had a concours 1000 that I adored but that has since turned into an indefinite project bike :(
I rode one and definitely fell in love with it its just none were available anywhere plus all the fairings just get in the way of maintenance 😂 Imo Sport Touring or Adv bikes are the way to go if you want a daily all season rider. They hit this perfect trifecta of Utility, performance, and comfort. Though I really wish I could find something like a Trail Tail that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to get that last bit of utility
I've been on plenty of shiny new full fairing machines and they always remind me of just how easy it is to work on my KLR. I really like that in 15 or so minutes I could probably have the bike down to whatever part I need and probably also fix it without resorting to a shop.
Yeah, priuses are really low maintenance for the most part, it's nice. And motorcycles aren't necessarily the death traps people are making out here, higher risk yes but if you're a defensive, aware driver and not a squid it's really not bad. Motorcycles don't tend to attract defensive drivers though.
The defensive drivers are here, they just aren't yelling at everyone about how their gixxer 600 does 180mph
Can you link the community?
https://lemmy.world/c/motorcycles
One Of Us :)
Holy shit, thank you so much.
Of course lol
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !motorcycles@lemmy.world
Thank you!
Just to get some varying opinions, can anyone that’s died on a motorcycle chip in with their experience?
I've lost I think 5 personal friends who rode. You know what each of them had in common? Wreckless driving.
If they died on the motorcycle they definitely weren't driving wrecklessly. You probably mean reckless
Had to look this up because I never realized there was a difference.
You are correct.