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Okay folks, it is the off season time for useless debates.

If you could change one thing about F1 (and just one thing you anoraks) what would it be and why?

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[-] Squeak@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I’m going straight in there with the controversial ‘I’d change the 2021 result’.

At least, I would change the decisions made by Masi at the end of the race. Not just straight up take the title off Max.

But I know that’s not really the spirit of your question. So to follow that, I’d just get rid of sprint races.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

What you're saying about not simply taking away Max' title is probably the reason Mercedes thought better of going to court over this.

You just can't say with 100% certainty that Hamilton would've won the race under different circumstances, it wouldn't hold up in court. The only thing they probably could've achieved would've been to invalidate the race result, but that wouldn't have changed the outcome of the championship.

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, had the race finished under the safety car as it ought to have done then we can say that Lewis would have won the race and the championship

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

We'd assume, yes. And I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this would hold up in court. There's a non-zero chance Lewis' car would've died during the last lap driving slowly, for example.

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, courts don't work on the basis of non-zero chances.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What I'm saying is that they probably can't "invent" a race result in court by fantasizing about how it could've been.

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And I'm saying extrapolating one safety car lap forward is not 'fantasizing'

[-] Squeak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, exactly. Nothing to say Lewis wouldn’t have crashed behind the safety car. Unlikely? Sure. But not guaranteed. I’m happy for max and I feel sorry for him that it will always be brought up alongside his first title. There will always be that imaginary asterisks there.

Someone else commented that it would have been the same if it was the other way and it was Max that got screwed. I agree, I think it was just Masi trying to make it exciting. But that doesn’t change the fact it was completely wrong.

[-] spectradawn77@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If the situation was reversed, the same exact thing would more than likely have happened. What Masi did was fucked though.

[-] Squeak@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I completely agree. Masi tried to make it exciting and fucked up massively.

[-] toma@lemmy.omat.nl -5 points 1 year ago

Relax. Have you ever watched a soccer match? There are at least half a dozen errors by the referee in each match that can influence the outcome of a match. Even with the video referee. Sometimes it is in your favor , sometimes it is not, deal with it. Max won and he deserved it.

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This wasn't an error, it was a deliberate missing out the rules to create a dramatic ending. it's not the same as a referee missing an offside call.

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

That was the entire season though, its way more complicated than 1 race

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I can't think of another point in the season where the race director chose to misinterpret the rules to change the result of the race?

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