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In the world of politics you never give something for free. The Republicans are asking for more stringent border security and more border funding. If democrats were truly committed to supporting Ukraine then they would have made those concessions all ready. The problem is democrats love exploiting brown people for their cheap sweat shop labor.
You could build an IMAX theater with all that projection.
Border security wouldn't stop migrant workers. The whole "invasion of the border" thing is never talking about those people, as was proven by farmers lamenting their absence in Florida.
I wasn't referencing migrant workers with work visas, I was referencing all the people entering illegally. Of course farm owners are upset, their source of cheap labor dried up.
Yes, hence my first sentence.
You know what would actually put a dent in illegal immigration? Fixing their country that we broke. They come here because being undocumented and working under the table with potentially dangerous conditions is better than their home country. Maybe we shouldn't have destabilized so many democracies in South America.
If you expect us to take responsibility for our actions, then we'd have to have real solutions, and it's just easier to complain about things, plus we'd have to arrest a looooooot of war criminals.
Bullshit. You pass a law because it's the right thing to help the country not because you got something for it.
I agree with you, Maggoty, and that why neither one of us will get very far in National politics.
That's cute that you think the world works that way.
The existence of bad people does not invalidate morality.
The existence of morality does not change how politics works.
That's demonstrably untrue. Otherwise we'd still be operating under monarchies.
Many monarchies were overthrown by people some ceeded power so they wouldn't get overthrown.
That's the point.
I'm failing to understand how monarchs ceeding some power to retain others shows that politicians act selflessly.
Because they would never have had to do that if morals and values didn't change and force the issue.
The monarch ceeding was not acting selflessly.
No but that doesn't mean morality didn't cause them to leave. They didn't care, everyone else cared.
Other people wanting power is morality?
You're dodging the point like Neo in the Matrix. Enough people cared to make it happen. Nobody said anything about the new leadership.
Nothing that those people did would be considered selfless.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
I hope you have a wonderful day.
Or the Dems know that letting the GOP get their shitty ideas through just because Dems want something isn't a good idea and are going to try to do it without the traitors' party's help
They have been, some substantial compromises actually. The Republicans still wanting more, in a non-compromising sort of way.
Personally I'm hoping the FBI actually does checks on everyone in Congress, to make sure they're not being compromised to vote in certain ways that certain countries wants.
George W. Bush set the precedent that The US does not negotiate with terrorists. Even when those terrorists are in Congress. They should stop setting precedents they don't really mean.
Oh yes, more money to fix the perpetual, nebulously defined "border problem".
Sometimes compromise is not the solution. This is one of those times. I'm tired of Republican fearmongers getting rich off my tax dollars by funneling it into the border security slush fund.
Or is it that the Democrats understand the rhetorical danger of equating an actual war in Europe involving a major nuclear power, with the ego driven pet project of a fascist demagogue?