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Truck driver who caused deadly Broncos crash loses latest bid to stay in Canada
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You're not incorrect about that in a sense, but I've yet to hear of one so catastrophic. What about Ali Ibrahim, you're gonna tell me as if a natural citizen is incapable of raping and murdering a little girl in a "strange land"? You saying these things would happen regardless so just open the floodgates even more, CenturyInitiative style?
There's clearly nothing for us to discuss lol
The data does not support the argument that an increase in immigration leads to an increases crime. As a side note, I'm an immigrant and I come to a complete stop at stop signs and drive the speed limit. None of my Canadian born friends do ๐
We'll come back to that per my energy to deal with it but lwts talk Ali Ibrahim for a moment if you'll indulge me. Bit harder to argue against ;)
Edit: also, just because the data says one thing DOES NOT in any sense preclude the existence of severe outlier data points (anecdata)...its pretty real for the family, court staff, and the medical examiner who suicided herself post-cross-examination/case-in-chief. Is it getting real enough or has McGill published a counter-arguement that can prove none of that stuff happened either?
Edit: most people are terrible about rolling stops, its insane
The stop signs seem more like a polite suggestion here ๐คฃ And why don't they just increase the speed limit to 120 already.
That's why we should rely on the data, decisions shouldn't be based on anecdotal outliers. No one is excusing the horrific acts of Ali Ibrahim or any other immigrant. It's just that their immigrant status doesn't have a causal relationship with crime so immigration status is irrelevant. We all want to reduce violent crime in Canada so lets focus on identifying real causal relationships so that we can support at risk individuals.
Why wasn't he required to have a surety/translator? If I'm wearing my empathy hat for a moment: He needed a guide anyway because he was unable to read and write, you cannot have someone like that wandering without support. He should not have been allowed to be running around unsupported or unsupervised. How are you going to argue with that?
You agree someone like that should be allowed to be out on the prowl?
Edit: re:rolling stops, its annoying how easy it is and nobody does it lol. I have to drill it in my brain cuz theyll totally ticket you for it
That's a valid question no matter where they were born. I'm not arguing that there were no failings in this case, I'm arguing that those failings are not related to the original citizenship of this individual.
As I said earlier
Let's identify at risk individuals (both possible victims and possible attackers) instead of scapegoating non casual and even non correlated attributes of individuals who commit violent acts.
re: traffic laws in Canada. From my experience, it depends where you are in Canada (and what number plates you have). Driving the speed limit on Toronto highways is dangerous but going 10 over with Ontario plates in Quebec can get you a ticket ๐ There are lots of unwritten road rules here, it was difficult to learn as an immigrant. Especially coming from a country littered with speed cameras where 7km over will get you fined hundreds of dollars. And don't get me wrong, I think Canadian drivers are generally really good, it's just the laws don't align with the reality which can be confusing.