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[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Millennials remember when video games weren’t pay to win.

You mean like arcade beat ‘em ups that are near impossible to complete on one credit? Or Gauntlet, where you literally got more health just from inserting coins?

[-] habanhero@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Wrong generation man. Millenials grew up with consoles and PCs. They don't game in arcades as much as the MTV generation.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

What range do you consider millennials?

[-] habanhero@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oldest millennials were born in early 80s? So when they were at the gaming age it would be in the 90s, during the era of the console boom.

If you were primarily the arcade-trotting group you'd have to be a kid or teen in the 80s which puts you in Gen X.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You speak with such authority, and yet, I know you are not a millennial. A millennial would know that arcades were white-hot in the 90’s. Have you ever heard of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Turtles in Time? The Simpsons? X-Men? All those Neo Geo games? There was also this game called…um, street something…streets of fighting? Street Kombat? Mortal Fighter? Street Fighter? I think they made a second one of those, too. Shoot, where did that come out originally? It’s escaping me right now. It’ll come to me eventually.

Edit: I’m re-reading your post; and you contradict yourself. You say people born in the early 80’s are millennials, but if you were a kid in the 80’s that makes you gen x? Do you not know how math works? Someone born in the early 80’s would be a kid during the 80’s.

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more “arcade games weren’t popular in the 90’s” seems like one of the top 5 dumbest takes I have ever read on the internet.

[-] habanhero@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Have you ever heard of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Turtles in Time? The Simpsons? X-Men? All those Neo Geo games? There was also this game called…um, street something…streets of fighting? Street Kombat? Mortal Fighter? Street Fighter?

Yes and most if not all of those landed on console too. Your point?

I'm not saying that arcades are unsuccessful in the 90s. I'm saying for millennials, the notion of video games had shifted from primarily arcade to primarily console due to the console boom in the 90s, thus supporting OP's point that Millenials should remember a time when games are not pay-to-win.

You say people born in the early 80’s are millennials, but if you were a kid in the 80’s that makes you gen x? Do you not know how math works? Someone born in the early 80’s would be a kid during the 80’s.

What are you on about? These generations are defined by date ranges and not something I made up. So yes, it is entirely possible that the oldest of the old Millennials might be arcade crawling at age 8 or 9 in the 80s, but a whole bunch more of them are still in diapers or not even born yet. Make sense?

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes and most if not all of those landed on console too. Your point?

What’s your point? If a game came out on console, it doesn’t matter that it was ever an arcade game?

I’m saying for millennials, the notion of video games had shifted from primarily arcade to primarily console due to the console boom in the 90s

Speaking as millennial in the 90’s, this is untrue. I, and most of my millennial friends played games on consoles, in arcades, and even on PC! If a game came out in arcades, and later came to consoles, it is still an arcade game. It doesn’t suddenly not become an arcade game because it’s been released elsewhere.

Also, do you seriously not know about Street Fighter 2? This is the biggest takeaway that you are not a millennial. The 90’s had a HUGE arcade boom with fighting games. Arcades were filled with fighting games, and the most popular games would have multiple units and still have long lines of people waiting to play. This was a huge part of gaming in the 90’s as millennials. There’s a reason why people wanted to play Street Fighter 2 so much when it came out on SNES: it was already extremely popular in arcades! At this point I feel like you are deliberately trying to troll, and like the idiot I am, I’m just taking the bait.

thus supporting OP’s point that Millenials should remember a time when games are not pay-to-win.

Again, I am a millennial who played beat ‘em ups in arcades a lot. They were very popular Those games are straight up pay to win. Yes they came out on consoles too, but a) those versions weren’t as good, therefore b) the arcade versions were still more popular

These generations are defined by date ranges and not something I made up.

Whoops! My bad. Millennials started in 1981 and I was born in 1980. Guess I was never a millennial after all except the years keep changing and I’ve seen start dates of 1980, 1979, and 1978 as well. It’s hard to keep track when the date keeps changing.

So yes, it is entirely possible that the oldest of the old Millennials might be arcade crawling at age 8 or 9 in the 80s

Ok, now I gotta ask; are you an alien? Because most human children begin walking within the first 2 years. 8 or 9 year olds usually don’t need to crawl

but a whole bunch more of them are still in diapers or not even born yet.

Hmm, it’s almost like the experiences of everyone with a generation aren’t all exactly the same.

[-] habanhero@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

What’s your point? If a game came out on console, it doesn’t matter that it was ever an arcade game?

Dude I literally told you my point in the next paragraph lol.

Whoops! My bad. Millennials started in 1981 and I was born in 1980. Guess I was never a millennial after all except the years keep changing and I’ve seen start dates of 1980, 1979, and 1978 as well. It’s hard to keep track when the date keeps changing.

Yeah let's make it all about you! So offended, so sad. Look, I'm not really interested in indulging you because this debate is a big nothingburger. I've made my case and other people can weight in. But feel free to continue blowing all the hot air you like.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Lol this all started because you made things about your own specific narrow point of view

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